Bathroom renovation

northernireland10

Hi,
Just wondering if anyone had any experience in this, we moved into our new house in April, since then we're in the middle of decorating, and stripped wallpaper etc, the biggest job is the bathroom, suspended ceiling has been removed and polystyrene tiles which were under that have been removed, under that the plasterboard ceiling has a large crack, how much would it be to replaster ceiling 10ft x 7ft and skim the bathroom walls.
We also have bought a new shower enclosure with tray and are looking for keen priced baths, basins and WCs.
Also, any advice on what would need to be done first ie. plumber/plasterer/electricial as im putting in a new electric shower.
Any advice greatly appriciated.
Btw in the North Coast area.

Thanks,
NI10
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bingo_bango

NI, I'm in the middle of a similar project. Convention these days is apparently not to bother plastering the ceiling. You simply fill the joints between boards, smooth them out, and then paint the lot. Plasterboard tends to be be more consistently smooth these days.

I have put in the new bathroom suite, and when doing it I plumbed an extra feed for the shower. I too have to replace my ceiling, and intend to run the electrical cabling for the shower when doing so. Last job will be some plastering repairs (how the hell is tile adhesive stronger than plaster???? It ripped chunks out of the old plaster when taking them off) and tiling. If the walls aren't currently too bad, do you really need to replaster them? If you intend to tile over them then I wouldn't bother.

I can't help you with costs (I'm doing my own) but it would be plumber, electrician immediately after (or the same time) and then the plastering / tiling.

northernireland10

Hi bingo bango, thanks for replying, I think it definitely needs new plasterboard for the ceiling as the crack is running the other way of supports above so it is hanging an inch or so, walls are in a terrible state and we're only planning tiling part and painting the rest. Do you have any suggestions on where to get new bath basin WCs? Other half looking for square kind of basin.

A.L.D.A

Plasterer say 2 days @ £80 a day plus materials say another £100. Maybe you need to move the ceiling rose etc.

Just a point on bathrooms. If the shower is against a stud wall make sure the wall is lined with ext. ply and not plasterboard. make very sure the shower is fitted properly. A high percentage give problems due to bad installation or bad design.

tpt

if you are fully tiling then dont replaster the walls - if your half tiling reconsider, its usually not much of a saving. you'd be better off drylining with moisture resistant plasterboard and tile straight onto that. either tank the plasterboard in the shower\bath area first or use aquaboard\no more ply (better than ply IMO) in those areas.

You would typically strip out first, then do first fit (plumbing and electric cabling etc) then dry line & tile, then second fit (connect plumbing and elecs etc)

ceiling wise should be less than a day for a plasterer - especially if you overboard yourself. dont rip the old plaster and lath down - the dust is immense.

s_m_m

Hi

About a year ago i got my bathroom fully renovated with pvc cladding on walls and ceiling, took out bath and put in shower unit, it was the best deal and i did shop around. Its low maintainance which i had have done it years ago.

A.L.D.A

tpt wrote: »

if you are fully tiling then dont replaster the walls - if your half tiling reconsider, its usually not much of a saving. you'd be better off drylining with moisture resistant plasterboard and tile straight onto that. either tank the plasterboard in the shower\bath area first or use aquaboard\no more ply (better than ply IMO) in those areas.

You would typically strip out first, then do first fit (plumbing and electric cabling etc) then dry line & tile, then second fit (connect plumbing and elecs etc)

ceiling wise should be less than a day for a plasterer - especially if you overboard yourself. dont rip the old plaster and lath down - the dust is immense.

Good advice. Aquaboard is fine, I would tend to shy away from ordinary plasterboard even if tanked. Also make sure everything is properly fixed expecialy if you are fixing over existing.

BOBS

Northern Ireland 10 - couple years ago we totally pulled out our old bathroom, tiles and all and also built an ensuite into our bedroom (which backs onto bathroom) - we got one guy to do the whole lot (apart from building walls of ensuite) - he and his team really clean and tidy workers. One guy appeared with a still saw to start tracking pipes for ensuite and the guy chased him and said he wasnt using it in my house where i had kids and made him do it manually. Will pm you number.

polpoo

Hi there
Get all the first fix plumbing and wiring done first, then set to work on the walls. I would definitely tank behind the tiles in the shower. There's a paint on tanking membrane which is ok, but I would recommend buying it in propriety rolls. I can't for the life of me remember what it's called, but it's a German product- it's bright orange and and is slightly dimpled. A good tiler will know what it is. Most tiling suppliers will have it. Next job is to tile the walls that are to be tiled and paint the others. The actual fittings ( bath sink shower heads etc) should be the last things to be fitted to avoid any damage.
There is a company called Sykes in Belfast off the fortwilliam roundabout who is very good and reasonable. When I built my own house I got a lot of the stuf on- line from a company called bathaholics. Best of luck

A.L.D.A

here is a video on tanking wet rooms. http://www.broadbandtvchannel.co.uk/clip.asp?clipid=169

Probably not quite what you are doing but can't over emphasise the importance of clean, dust & grease free, and reinforcing joints.

Pretani

if you've got a cack in your bathroom ceiling your better putting pine (or some other wood) on it. Don't fill in the crack as the steam in your bathroom will eventually open it up.