Tests claim few benefit claimants 'unfit to work'

heathcote123

Percy1983 wrote: »

I will add this countries idea of a child in poverty is having less than average, so if they don't have an xbox 360 and a 32inch LCD TV to play it on they are living in poverty.

32" inch definitely counts as poverty. Thats tiny.

Herbie_Hancock_I_wish

The_White_Horse wrote: »

get these lazy good for nothings off the benefits. let them starve. scum.

You including me in that??? Always very keen on your well thought out points . I jest .

I have been ill since my teens but have put in a good 40 years plus of work . Last year I had a complete mental breakdown and if it was not for the wonderful woman I married decades ago , I would not be here to post this .

I am on a very high intake of drugs to help with my condition . I leave the house rarely unless my wife is with me , even then I am subject to panic attacks . I cannot even go to the supermarket without freaking out , even if my wife is with me . I am diagnosed with severe depression, anxiety , OCD , agoraphobia and I also suffer from auditory hallucinations .

I get some benefits and grateful for them . I do not have a plasma TV . My wife receives some small pensions and works hard for very little and also is a true carer of me .

I loved working and have a number of talents , I fill a lot of my time supporting one or two charities on line . I am in the process of claiming an awful lot of money from the company I was contracted to for years who ripped me off . Another stress I can do with out , Should I be successful I most likely will not claim anything from the State .

Anyway, Horsey. Have you the guts to tell me I am a lazy good for nothing and scum that should starve .

Bring it on gob !!!!! .

Sibley

I think the UK should completely stop all benefits as from now.
Anyone sick should be taken care of by their family not the taxpayer.

I live in Thailand and it's like that here. Much better system.

Any girls getting pregnant get nothing.
No free health.

You just work and take care of yourself end of.

MRSTITTLEMOUSE

Sibley wrote: »

I think the UK should completely stop all benefits as from now.
Anyone sick should be taken care of by their family not the taxpayer.

I live in Thailand and it's like that here. Much better system.

Any girls getting pregnant get nothing.
No free health.

You just work and take care of yourself end of.

So I take it we would'nt be needing to pay any more tax or at least greatly reduced tax and national insurance as a consequence.

Sibley

Yes, no NI for sure. I dont want any public services. Pay as you go for things.

MacMickster

Sibley wrote: »

I think the UK should completely stop all benefits as from now.
Anyone sick should be taken care of by their family not the taxpayer.

I live in Thailand and it's like that here. Much better system.

Any girls getting pregnant get nothing.
No free health.

You just work and take care of yourself end of.

This would be the same Thailand with a huge sex trade problem - young girls (and boys) who have no other way of supporting themselves forced into this "trade". Women so desperate to escape this paragon of a society that they are willing to marry foreigners who they have never met.

A civilised society is one where the weak and vulnerable are supported by the rest of society - the price of a civilised society being taxes.

Of course there will always be those who seek to defraud such a society, but I would prefer to live in a society that does not abandon the weak or disabled.

The_White_Horse

Herbie_Hancock_I_wish wrote: »

You including me in that??? Always very keen on your well thought out points . I jest .

I have been ill since my teens but have put in a good 40 years plus of work . Last year I had a complete mental breakdown and if it was not for the wonderful woman I married decades ago , I would not be here to post this .

I am on a very high intake of drugs to help with my condition . I leave the house rarely unless my wife is with me , even then I am subject to panic attacks . I cannot even go to the supermarket without freaking out , even if my wife is with me . I am diagnosed with severe depression, anxiety , OCD , agoraphobia and I also suffer from auditory hallucinations .

I get some benefits and grateful for them . I do not have a plasma TV . My wife receives some small pensions and works hard for very little and also is a true carer of me .

I loved working and have a number of talents , I fill a lot of my time supporting one or two charities on line . I am in the process of claiming an awful lot of money from the company I was contracted to for years who ripped me off . Another stress I can do with out , Should I be successful I most likely will not claim anything from the State .

Anyway, Horsey. Have you the guts to tell me I am a lazy good for nothing and scum that should starve .

Bring it on gob !!!!! .

judging from this well thought out and decently written post - I reckon you could work.

work from home.

now you answer me a question - if they actually stopped your benefits and you genuinely had nothing - would you starve to death or would you find some kind of work to get by?

The_White_Horse

MacMickster wrote: »

This would be the same Thailand with a huge sex trade problem - young girls (and boys) who have no other way of supporting themselves forced into this "trade". Women so desperate to escape this paragon of a society that they are willing to marry foreigners who they have never met.

A civilised society is one where the weak and vulnerable are supported by the rest of society - the price of a civilised society being taxes.

Of course there will always be those who seek to defraud such a society, but I would prefer to live in a society that does not abandon the weak or disabled.

horses for courses. they have people in the sex trade, we have estate agents. I know which is worse.

i bet those in the sex trade don't have spikey hair and a big fat knot in their tie. hateful filth.

you have to have some public services ie police, roads, court system. but nearly everything else can be pay as you go.

MacMickster

You obviously dislike the British way of life so much that I wonder why people with attitudes like yours remain in this country. Surely you could find a society to live in where you could pay as you go - maybe join the Tea Party lunatics in the US. You choose, however, to live in the UK - a country that I am proud to live in where we look after those in need - not abandon them.

The_White_Horse

MacMickster wrote: »

You obviously dislike the British way of life so much that I wonder why people with attitudes like yours remain in this country. Surely you could find a society to live in where you could pay as you go - maybe join the Tea Party lunatics in the US. You choose, however, to live in the UK - a country that I am proud to live in where we look after those in need - not abandon them.

i am happy to look after the 2% in need. it is the 98% scrounging spongers i don't want to look after.

i have a friend who works, supports his wife and kid and pays all his bills and tax. in the block of flats next door to his, there is this layabout scum (presumably on incapacity benefit) who has never worked in the 5 years i have lived in the area. he just wanders the streets drinking stella and walking his massive dog. why does my friend have to work himself to the bone for virtually the same lifestyle (worse in fact, as he has to work in town, rather than lounge about all day)???? it is absolutely wrong.

this is what is wrong with the country. bleeding heart fools like you that give the benefit brigade better lifestyles than those who work.

as living standards go down, only one class won't be affected - the benefit brigade.

hateful scrounging good for nothing filth.

there is no way this piece of dirt can't work. no way.