Sacked for excessive internet use !!

dickydonkin

so you have it in writing they asked you to resign? They can't threaten you no matter what you have done. And it is against the law to give a bad reference you would have prob just got one.

I think they have it in for you so unless you want to take it further you need to put it down to experience and get on and find another job.

No - the OP stated that they 'asked' her to resign - not wrote to her - and as for it being 'against the law' to provide bad references - I know someone on here who is building up a head of steam as I write !:rotfl:

LadyMissA

dickydonkin wrote: »

No - the OP stated that they 'asked' her to resign - not wrote to her - and as for against the law regarding providing bad references - I know someone on here who is building up a head of steam as I write !:rotfl:

yes but if this was in a fomal meeting and it should have been all that was said should have been written down and held as notes and if thats not the case she has a claim for unfair dismissal or treatment.

If you get a reference request and you want to give a bad one you just put no comment

billybluehat_2

ACAS have some good advice i can't post the link (noob er me not you) but they have a whole section on internet. Also i beleive after 12 months of employment there has to be some sort of process. i.e. were you presented with the evidence before a decision was made. were you given an opportunity to bring a collegue with you to the meeting. just put www. in fornt of acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1895

it's probably worth saying i know this because one of my employees used this site as a resource against me. ;-0

dickydonkin

LadyMissA wrote: »

yes but if this was in a fomal meeting and it should have been all that was said should have been written down and held as notes and if thats not the case she has a claim for unfair dismissal or treatment.

If you get a reference request and you want to give a bad one you just put no comment

The key word is IF.

The OP has not indicated that this was stated in a formal meeting -and I suspect that no employer would make such a statement with witnesses anyway.

As for the reference request, many companies now have a policy where they do not provide references - irrespective of whether the ex employee was exemplory or otherwise. By not providing a reference does not imply the ex employee was a bad one.

As stated on here ad nauseum - an employer can give any type of reference he wishes - provided it is accurate and true.

I have used teh net a fair bit to be honest . But then should i not get a warning first . Straight to dissmissal . No dodgy sites or anything . just usual shopping , sports etc,

The above quote says it all really - I don't like to see people lose their jobs, but as for providing a warning - I think the OP already had one - when she was asked to resign because of the lack of work!

LadyMissA

dickydonkin wrote: »

The key word is IF.

The OP has not indicated that this was stated in a formal meeting -and I suspect that no employer would make such a statement with witnesses anyway.

As for the reference request, many companies now have a policy where they do not provide references - irrespective of whether the ex employee was exemplory or otherwise. By not providing a reference does not imply the ex employee was a bad one.

As stated on here ad nauseum - an employer can give any type of reference he wishes - provided it is accurate and true.



The above quote says it all really - I don't like to see people lose their jobs, but as for providing a warning - I think the OP already had one - when she was asked to resign because of the lack of work!

yeah my old co wont give a detailed ref for anyone now as someone they did give a fantastic reference for later out turned out to have been stealing from them!

Any co who asks you to resign is after you

Sachin

I was told by the boss 4 weeks ago that there was never any issue regarding my work in terms of quality and time it took to be done . However work was drying up so as i was last one in i would be first one out , He advised better for me to resign rather than being made redundant and asked me to write a letter resigning . I refused . Only me and boss present at meeting .

2 weeks later i was called into the office again . Handed a folder which allegedly showed my interent usage , This consisted of print outs of the browsing history of Google Chrome . It showed the various sites visited and the time it was visited but not total time spent on each site . As google chrome records every click of the mouse there were for example 20 lines in the browsing history over a 2 minute period . However totoal time on the internet was not given , just a print out from the browsing history . I was told to resign again or else . I refused ,

2 weeks later i went under a disciplinary hearing (procedure followed) . and i was dismissed for gross misconduct for excessive use of internet and falsifying timesheets.

In my defence i stated that everybody uses internet which he agreed to. I said hence it was excepted policy . He said he would investigate the others also now . I also stated that i have done all the work and not falsified any time sheets and he can check this. No problems with work for 7 years . I stated that i had not used the internet following the meeting alleging misuse. I siad i had been treated unfairly as it was well known that others had used the internet all day and they had never been reprimanded or discplined. I hence felt discrminated against as i hadnt been treated fairly and equally as compared to others.

Do i have a case at employment tribuanl .

Torry_Quine

You can't use the excuse that others were doing the same especially as they are investigating the others.

LadyMissA

Sachin wrote: »

I was told by the boss 4 weeks ago that there was never any issue regarding my work in terms of quality and time it took to be done . However work was drying up so as i was last one in i would be first one out , He advised better for me to resign rather than being made redundant and asked me to write a letter resigning . I refused . Only me and boss present at meeting .

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what company would ever say it was better to resign!? How is it?

You had been there 7 years? I say they didn't want to pay you notice & redundancy thats the only reason anyone would suggest to you to resign. So as you never they looked for another way to get rid of you with no pay out.

I would suggest to the company this under the right of appeal that you have up to 90 days from when you were dismissed.

If the boss lies in the appeal and says he/she enver said that to you then you know they were really out to get you.

the only thing you can do then is tribunal

Kel_1981

Always use private browsing. It's usually in 'tools' on most browsers.

SarEl

You keep repeating that you did not falsify timesheets because your work was completed. Did you produce billable hours timesheets - that is, timesheets based on work produced; or timesheets that are based on working hours - that is, when you were at your workstation and working. If the latter then it is still falsifying timeseheets! You are being paid to work between certain hours, not for the amount of work produced. If you can verify the threats made against you by your manager, then you may stand some chance of showing this to be unfair, but I do agree that this would have been key information to raise in the OP, not several pages later, and a tribunal is going to take a similar view - without evidence of what you say then you would raise it after the event, but that does not make it true.