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How do creditor know how much you earn?

Okay...I am being really blonde!

How do creditors know when your income to debt ratio is high?

Do they rely on what you tell them? The reason I ask is so many people are getting into debt, but I always assumed that every bank account you have is on your CR and they would state how much goes in monthly, but I have learned this isn't the case, and that banks without overdrafts are not seen on you CR.

So I guess my query is, could someone tell a creditor they earn 100K when they in fact earn 10k?
29th June -Beginning Credit Score 422 :( £2575
12th July - Credit score 471 :p
22nd August - Credit Score 550 :p Still very poor just but only just!
Remaining to pay off: £1370.95

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  • crazyguy
    crazyguy Posts: 5,495 Forumite
    edited 16 July 2011 at 6:40PM
    They could but a creditor or potential new creditor would want to see proof of income !
  • DarnIt_3
    DarnIt_3 Posts: 294 Forumite
    edited 16 July 2011 at 6:46PM
    crazyguy wrote: »
    They could but a creditor or potential new creditor wouuld want to see proof of income !

    Thats okay then, I just thought that your CR would show something to prevent fraud.
    29th June -Beginning Credit Score 422 :( £2575
    12th July - Credit score 471 :p
    22nd August - Credit Score 550 :p Still very poor just but only just!
    Remaining to pay off: £1370.95
  • Well creditors want to see evidence of income, which certainly isn't the same as proof of income. I can offer evidence I dated JLo but that's not proof I did. Give them whatever evidence they want to see but let it prove nothing.
  • crazyguy
    crazyguy Posts: 5,495 Forumite
    edited 16 July 2011 at 6:53PM
    Well creditors want to see evidence of income, which certainly isn't the same as proof of income. I can offer evidence I dated JLo but that's not proof I did. Give them whatever evidence they want to see but let it prove nothing.


    Are you not being a tad pedantic here,

    Evidence/proof there is little if no difference
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    DarnIt wrote: »
    Okay...I am being really blonde!

    How do creditors know when your income to debt ratio is high?

    Do they rely on what you tell them?

    Some do.
    DarnIt wrote: »
    The reason I ask is so many people are getting into debt, but I always assumed that every bank account you have is on your CR and they would state how much goes in monthly, but I have learned this isn't the case, and that banks without overdrafts are not seen on you CR.

    No, banks don't go around telling everyone what their customers earn or how much money they pay into their accounts. All they do is report the fact that you have an overdraft, and its status.
    DarnIt wrote: »
    So I guess my query is, could someone tell a creditor they earn 100K when they in fact earn 10k?

    Yes they could. However there's a technical legal term often used to describe this kind of thing being, of course, 'fraud'. Criminal penalties may well result.
  • DarnIt_3
    DarnIt_3 Posts: 294 Forumite
    antrobus wrote: »
    Some do.



    No, banks don't go around telling everyone what their customers earn or how much money they pay into their accounts. All they do is report the fact that you have an overdraft, and its status.



    Yes they could. However there's a technical legal term often used to describe this kind of thing being, of course, 'fraud'. Criminal penalties may well result.


    Isn't that awful though, that people can do that. No wonder people are getting into masses of debt if there is no genuine way to check.
    29th June -Beginning Credit Score 422 :( £2575
    12th July - Credit score 471 :p
    22nd August - Credit Score 550 :p Still very poor just but only just!
    Remaining to pay off: £1370.95
  • crazyguy wrote: »
    Evidence/proof there is little if no difference
    Proof is the perfection of evidence, there is a big difference.
  • chuckley
    chuckley Posts: 4,405 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture
    they must know bits... coz I had 1 creditor phone me asking me to use another credit card to pay off a debt as it 'had available funds'. not true, the 'available' funds card on my report was in error.
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