Help with LGV training???

dickydonkin

saintjammyswine wrote: »

Not true at all I'm afraid. There is a huge skills gap identified between the time served drivers & operatives, management both white & blue collar and the new blood coming through. SKills for Logistics themselves have a large amount of data on this and there has been a massive rise in the number of companies not only taking on apprentices in the Logistics sector but also working on steering groups to drive the new qualifications and increase the skills level generally within the industry.

Maybe so - but in respect of drivers, the fact doesn't alter that for insurance purposes, there is generally a prequisite to have 2 years experience and be aged over 25.

As for the OP liking driving - I love chocolate - but I could not eat it all day every day.

I can assure you - the novelty of driving large vehicles wears off when deadlines have to be met, 15 hour shifts, working rolling on weeks where you work weekends at normal rates and your 'weekend' is Tuesday and Wednesday, queing for hours outside of RDC's with irate transport managers asking where you are.....I can go on.

Up to you - but I would invest my money for a course in another career.

Jo_F

saintjammyswine wrote: »

Again, a misconception. Apprenticeships are for anyone over 16 and they can start their licence at 18 on the DGV Apprenticeship.

Have you actually read the details, its a further qualification for people that already have the licence. It doesn't give you the licence.

saintjammyswine

I have as we provide the qual here. The licence can be built into the framework of the qualification and so it can be started by someone who is coming up to 18 and does not already have the licence. there are hundreds doing this already as major employers in the industry are recognising that to train someone through this route is much cheaper than paying for the equivalent training commercially and the apprentices come out with better skills and more quals.

Hammyman

saintjammyswine wrote: »

Not true at all I'm afraid. There is a huge skills gap identified between the time served drivers & operatives, management both white & blue collar and the new blood coming through. SKills for Logistics themselves have a large amount of data on this and there has been a massive rise in the number of companies not only taking on apprentices in the Logistics sector but also working on steering groups to drive the new qualifications and increase the skills level generally within the industry.

BWAHAHA. S4L is known as a joke in the haulage industry. And they cover warehousing etc, not just lorry driving and this thread is about lorry driving.

I speak from the thick end of two decades experience in the haulage industry and not from the sales sheet your manager gave you to regurgitate. There is no apprenticeship for lorry drivers. There is no NVQ. There is only the Drivers CPC which the industry reluctantly agreed to have foisted upon them. Very few if any companies offer training schemes for unqualified unlicensed car drivers to become LGV drivers. They don't need to as there are plenty out there with experience.

And all those 18 year olds hoping to drive trucks once the licence age was lowered have found out nobody will take them on even if they've paid for their own training, partially because they're uninsurable and partially because no haulage company would trust an 18 year old with £100,000 worth of lorry and trailer and up to £500,000 of load it was carrying.

Hammyman

saintjammyswine wrote: »

I have as we provide the qual here.

Oh you're one of THEM. Do you also tell people that they can work the hours they want, there's 10,000s of jobs for lorry drivers and that you can earn £15/hr? The HGV training sector is full of such companies making those claims in order to screw people out of their money.

The licence can be built into the framework of the qualification and so it can be started by someone who is coming up to 18 and does not already have the licence. there are hundreds doing this already as major employers in the industry are recognising that to train someone through this route is much cheaper than paying for the equivalent training commercially and the apprentices come out with better skills and more quals.

Provide actual proof of 5 haulage companies in the UK offering training and apprenticeships to 18 year olds to become HGV drivers which I can telephone and ask.

poly1

I don't know anything about this but notice people asking about apprenticeships etc I know Stobarts do them. HTH

saintjammyswine

Hammyman wrote: »

BWAHAHA. S4L is known as a joke in the haulage industry. And they cover warehousing etc, not just lorry driving and this thread is about lorry driving.

I speak from the thick end of two decades experience in the haulage industry and not from the sales sheet your manager gave you to regurgitate. There is no apprenticeship for lorry drivers. There is no NVQ. There is only the Drivers CPC which the industry reluctantly agreed to have foisted upon them. Very few if any companies offer training schemes for unqualified unlicensed car drivers to become LGV drivers. They don't need to as there are plenty out there with experience.

And all those 18 year olds hoping to drive trucks once the licence age was lowered have found out nobody will take them on even if they've paid for their own training, partially because they're uninsurable and partially because no haulage company would trust an 18 year old with £100,000 worth of lorry and trailer and up to £500,000 of load it was carrying.

Right I dont work in a sales centre and have been involved in the design, delivery, marketing and employer engagement of these qualsm not regurgitating information my manager gave me. Do not question my motives, intentions nor my experience or level of authority within my organisation, thank you, I only want to offer advice, I dont care who they go through for training, I am simply offering some friendly information on what is available. There IS an apprenticeship for lorry drivers, it is called Driving Goods Vehicles and as newly qualified they dont need the extra CPC which time served will do(over 5 years). I deal with many large companies that bemoan the lack of UK, licenced, experienced, reliable drivers. In fact I had a meeting on friday with the 4th largest private company in the UK who said this very thing and will be taking people to progress onto the DGV Apprenticeship (of various ages).

I hope this clears my position up.

saintjammyswine

Hammyman wrote: »

Oh you're one of THEM. Do you also tell people that they can work the hours they want, there's 10,000s of jobs for lorry drivers and that you can earn £15/hr? The HGV training sector is full of such companies making those claims in order to screw people out of their money.


Provide actual proof of 5 haulage companies in the UK offering training and apprenticeships to 18 year olds to become HGV drivers which I can telephone and ask.

No. I am NOT one of them. I work on the employer side. I work in partnership with some of the largest companies in the UK to provide them what they want, not forcing un wanted courses on people who cant use them, as you point out there are enough of them that lie about what is available.

I will not give out that sort of information on a public board, dont be ridiculous. Why not simply phone the large logistics companies and ask them?

Hammyman

saintjammyswine wrote: »

I will not give out that sort of information on a public board, dont be ridiculous. Why not simply phone the large logistics companies and ask them?

I didn't ask you to give it out on the board, I asked you to give it to me.

Your evasiveness is duly noted.

saintjammyswine

why would I give a stranger information about companies I deal with? And I am not being evasive, simply professional.