curriculum vitae

Oldernotwiser

The other advantage in not putting references on your CV is that you can tailor them to the jobs you're applying for.

t0rt0ise

My understanding is that if you are sending CVs out on spec then you just put "referee details available on request", but if you're sending it for a particular advertised job, then it's fine to put referee details on it as it is then the same as an application form and there is no way you'd leave the referee bit blank on a form. In fact, if you leave them off, they will often pass over your application.

smileylondongal

Firstly, if you have nine years' worth of experience it's reasonable to have a two page CV, longer than that can be problematic but it does depend on experience.

Secondly, it is fairly standard to have a section at the end called 'References' which underneath can be added 'Available upon request'. Employers will only go for those references once they've made a job offer/you've accepted an offer as otherwise it would waste their time.

Thirdly, I wouldn't put any details as this will give you time to look for who to speak to. It would be good to have one reference where someone can speak about you but tbh as long as you've worked somewhere, it doesn't matter if your manager no longer works there as they will have a record of your working there and will do a bog standard reference for you saying you worked from X date to X date.

As long as you provide employers with what they need, this shouldn't impede you in any way.

t0rt0ise

I was just talking to someone who could only get a reference that said she worked from this date to that date etc. They deemed the reference unacceptable and withdrew the job offer. So it really depends what sort of job you're going for.

saintjammyswine

It may have been that to put anything relating to the person's performance would have to be untrue to be a good reference and so all they could say was they worked from x to x.

Evilm

When they ask for your references mention that employer 2 (job before this one) no longer exists but give the HR department for employer 3 (15 years ago).

If you still have contact with any co workers or managers from employer 2 then speak to them and see if they would act as a reference for you. Or if you have done any voluntary work etc in the meantime then see if they can give a reference.

If you get that far then talk to HR of the prospective new employers and explain the situation with your references. Hopefully they will be flexible and understand.