Rents up again.....

Percy1983

So a couple of greedy landlords are squeezing tenants harder, hardly shocking with the average profile of a landlord.

One thing I still haven't figured is where are are the homeless people? if there isn't enough houses we would have millions of homeless, numbers growing by the day.

ukcarper

Percy1983 wrote: »

So a couple of greedy landlords are squeezing tenants harder, hardly shocking with the average profile of a landlord.

One thing I still haven't figured is where are are the homeless people? if there isn't enough houses we would have millions of homeless, numbers growing by the day.

In bed and breakfast living with parents sofa hopping they are not all on the street.

ruggedtoast

Percy1983 wrote: »

So a couple of greedy landlords are squeezing tenants harder, hardly shocking with the average profile of a landlord.

One thing I still haven't figured is where are are the homeless people? if there isn't enough houses we would have millions of homeless, numbers growing by the day.

Homelessness has become a bit more of a hidden problem. New Labour actually did pump a lot of money into front line services to do with drug and alcohol addiction, which are prime indicators for homelessness.

My wife worked for an (entirely government funded) charity which amongst other things worked with alcoholics in terminal decline. They offered "wet centres" where people who were drinking themselves to death were allowed to stay where they were safe and werent endangering the public (the staff who worked there was another matter).

These tories are pulling all this funding back so you can expect a lot of people back out on the streets. But hey, as long as little Tarquin gets his Jaguar on his 17th birthday all is right with Call Me Dave and his mates.

Percy1983

But surely landlords who say they are providing a home for these people, if the landlord didn't own the house it would be another home for said people to buy.

Maybe the young need to take up a different tactic, instead of buying houses we should buy every car in the country and then rent them out to said landlords, if we charge £1000 a week for a 10 year old car the yield woud be amazing, its all fine as its not greed its supply and demand.

(ps, I am well aware they is huge problem with said plan, I am more trying to point out that buying all the stock to create you own market is ethically wrong, yet in housing its just supply and demand)

ukcarper

Percy1983 wrote: »

But surely landlords who say they are providing a home for these people, if the landlord didn't own the house it would be another home for said people to buy.

Maybe the young need to take up a different tactic, instead of buying houses we should buy every car in the country and then rent them out to said landlords, if we charge £1000 a week for a 10 year old car the yield woud be amazing, its all fine as its not greed its supply and demand.

(ps, I am well aware they is huge problem with said plan, I am more trying to point out that buying all the stock to create you own market is ethically wrong, yet in housing its just supply and demand)

Unfortunately people enter business to make money lots of companies could reduce their charges and still make a profit including accountants, but they don’t and to be honest if people are willing to pay why should they.

Percy1983

ukcarper wrote: »

Unfortunately people enter business to make money lots of companies could reduce their charges and still make a profit including accountants, but they don’t and to be honest if people are willing to pay why should they.

So all people are willing to pay higher rent prices, or do they have to pay it to have something as basic as shelter.

Going back to accountants, I don't believe they are a basic need in life, and last I checked there isn't one accountant kidnapping the others so they can charge more.

Yes many things in life aren't needed and let competition/supply and demand set the price, but when something is needed to live and therefore has a captive customer base, should said businesses be allowed to exploit such a position? (As ask this from an ethical point of view, not if it can or can't be controlled, but do you think it is right or wrong?)

ukcarper

Percy1983 wrote: »

So all people are willing to pay higher rent prices, or do they have to pay it to have something as basic as shelter.

Going back to accountants, I don't believe they are a basic need in life, and last I checked there isn't one accountant kidnapping the others so they can charge more.

Yes many things in life aren't needed and let competition/supply and demand set the price, but when something is needed to live and therefore has a captive customer base, should said businesses be allowed to exploit such a position? (As ask this from an ethical point of view, not if it can or can't be controlled, but do you think it is right or wrong?)

I am all for supplying houses outside the private rental market but Maggie started the process of selling off council houses and no Government since has done very much to reverse the trend and all the time Private Landlords are in control they are going to try and maximise their profits.

Cleaver

Percy1983 wrote: »

One thing I still haven't figured is where are are the homeless people? if there isn't enough houses we would have millions of homeless, numbers growing by the day.

Is this honestly a serious question?

Percy1983

it sure is.

Cleaver

Percy1983 wrote: »

it sure is.

Oh, right, okay. A housing shortage doesn't mean that people have nowhere to live. It means that people either pay more out of their income for property, live in different formats (i.e. houseshare, two couples in a place where maybe there was one before etc. etc.) or simply stay at home with parents or with friends. A housing shortage changes the way people live, it doesn't force people out on to the street. Homelessness is, by and large, a completely different issue based around social and mental health issues.

In summary, the issue homelessness generally doesn't really have anything to do with housing shortages in a traditional sense. Your question is akin to asking, "well if people are finding it harder and harder to buy food, why don't we see starving people on the street?". And the answer is that you can have a problem that doesn't necessarily lead to the worst case scenario.