Tax on cm

PreludeForTimeFeelers

clearingout wrote: »

I am still waiting a response from my MP on how this improves things for those of us with a self-employed NRP who don't file accounts or tax returns.

Why would someone who was self-employed not file accounts or tax returns though, what would be the benefit?

clearingout

PreludeForTimeFeelers wrote: »

Why would someone who was self-employed not file accounts or tax returns though, what would be the benefit?

Well, that's a good question and one I don't have an answer to. The real benefit is if you don't claim any benefits and don't pay tax, you're entirely off the radar and can do what you want with the money you earn on a self employed basis, I guess. Your creditors also struggle to find you. In my ex's case, it has become clear over time that he hadn't paid tax for the last couple of years of our marriage - whether this is because the business was operating at a loss and was trying to cover this up or whether he spent the profit on his girlfriend (I suspect a bit of both), is hard to say. He also has more creditors than you can shake a stick at and has literally walked away from the business, no forwarding address, and started up again elsewhere. Not even gone bankrupt! Man with head firmly in sand syndrome.

You're right, it doesn't make sense. But I can assure you that's the case!

PreludeForTimeFeelers

clearingout wrote: »

Well, that's a good question and one I don't have an answer to. The real benefit is if you don't claim any benefits and don't pay tax, you're entirely off the radar and can do what you want with the money you earn on a self employed basis, I guess. Your creditors also struggle to find you. In my ex's case, it has become clear over time that he hadn't paid tax for the last couple of years of our marriage - whether this is because the business was operating at a loss and was trying to cover this up or whether he spent the profit on his girlfriend (I suspect a bit of both), is hard to say. He also has more creditors than you can shake a stick at and has literally walked away from the business, no forwarding address, and started up again elsewhere. Not even gone bankrupt! Man with head firmly in sand syndrome.

You're right, it doesn't make sense. But I can assure you that's the case!

Ahhh, I guess from his point of view then it does make sense, he just doesn't want to spend any of his money paying things like tax and child maintenance...

I've been told a few times that 'future scheme' will involve greater co-operation between Inland Revenue and the CSA, but I guess if the NRP is already avoiding HMRC then he'd still be hard to track down.

EclipsedMind

TBH the surcharge on the NRP sucks and is disproportionate they should be same for both sides. My case is that I paid maintenace and had shared residence since teh divorce with random contact denial from time to time. Then some kind soul told her if she stopped over nights with me and phoned the CSA she could get more money. I haven't seen my DD for weeks and although I have a court date for a preliminary hearing I am being hounded again by the CSA. Its nice that I will in future have to pay for teh pleasure of their attention when all along I was a good NRP and a big part of my DDs life. Sucks to be me I guess.

EM

clearingout

PreludeForTimeFeelers wrote: »

Ahhh, I guess from his point of view then it does make sense, he just doesn't want to spend any of his money paying things like tax and child maintenance...

I've been told a few times that 'future scheme' will involve greater co-operation between Inland Revenue and the CSA, but I guess if the NRP is already avoiding HMRC then he'd still be hard to track down.

It would be nice to think that in circumstances such as mine, the HMRC and the CSA COULD co-operate and actually speak with me. For a good 18 months, I knew where my ex was and what he was up to - if someone had bothered to contact me from the HMRC, they could have had him. I know Data Protection and confidentiality cloud the issue but in my case, it is very clear to anyone with even half a brain what my ex is up to. If you're going to behave in that way, you kind of waiver your rights in my opinion. I live in hope that they will one day turn up on my doorstep and ask me to testify against him in court. Flying pig anyone?!

clearingout

EclipsedMind wrote: »

TBH the surcharge on the NRP sucks and is disproportionate they should be same for both sides. My case is that I paid maintenace and had shared residence since teh divorce with random contact denial from time to time. Then some kind soul told her if she stopped over nights with me and phoned the CSA she could get more money. I haven't seen my DD for weeks and although I have a court date for a preliminary hearing I am being hounded again by the CSA. Its nice that I will in future have to pay for teh pleasure of their attention when all along I was a good NRP and a big part of my DDs life. Sucks to be me I guess.

EM

The system doesn't encourage shared care, I agree. However, as someone who went from shared care (of a fashion) to no shared care at all, I can assure you I would happily sacrifice a bit of the money (not that I get any, anyway) for the freedom I had when the children were with their father more often. Not much good having extra money in your pocket if you're sat in front of the telly watching re-runs of 'Friends' every night, is it?!

DX2

clearingout wrote: »

Not much good having extra money in your pocket if you're sat in front of the telly watching re-runs of 'Friends' every night, is it?!

Far better watching re-runs of CSI :whistle:

EclipsedMind

clearingout wrote: »

if someone had bothered to contact me from the HMRC, they could have had him. I know Data Protection and confidentiality cloud the issue but in my case, it is very clear to anyone with even half a brain what my ex is up to. If you're going to behave in that way, you kind of waiver your rights in my opinion. I live in hope that they will one day turn up on my doorstep and ask me to testify against him in court. Flying pig anyone?!

Maybe you could give HMRC a nudge as in these austere times its your moral duty to ensure he is in it together with the rest of us.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/tax-evasion/index.htm

As for the shared care: I only wish someone as sensible as you could get through to my Ex but I doubt she would listen as its all about punishing me because I met someone after being divorced 2 years. Kind of sad though as DD suffers the most during the contact blocking >.<

I think the government should be forcing divorcing couples with kids to do a course on moving on and acting in the childs best interests. I also think in cases where one of the adults is behaving correctly it is unreasonable to punish them for the fact the other is a vengeful idiot who can't rise above their pettiness but I guess our government disagrees.

I do wonder if once it's a paid for service and claim volumes fall will it improve or will it be just as bad but with fewer resources. Guess time will tell but I know what I would bet on.


EM

clearingout

DX2 wrote: »

Far better watching re-runs of CSI :whistle:

PMSL! I put CSI first but changed it to Friends 'cos I watch that a bit more often than CSI - but only just! LOL!

DX2

EclipsedMind wrote: »

I do wonder if once it's a paid for service and claim volumes fall will it improve or will it be just as bad but with fewer resources. Guess time will tell but I know what I would bet on.
EM

If I was a gambling person i would put money on it being just as bad if not worse! God help those of us who have no choice but to use them.