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'Undersirables' cannot be deported

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/undesirables-cannot-be-deported-2303879.html
The Government cannot deport "undesirable" or "dangerous" immigrants who may face ill-treatment at home - however bad their crimes in the UK, human rights judges ruled today.



In a test case ahead of more than 200 similar actions pending against the UK, the Strasbourg judges decreed that the UK's duty to protect people against torture or inhuman treatment is "absolute".



Sufi, 24, claimed asylum in the UK in 2003 on the grounds that he belonged to a minority clan persecuted by Somali militia. His account was rejected as not credible and asylum refused.
Elmi, 42, arrived in the UK in 1988 and was granted leave to stay as a refugee in 1989, renewed indefinitely in 1993.



After convictions for a number of serious criminal offences - including burglary and threats to kill in Sufi's case, and robbery and supplying class A drugs cocaine and heroine in Elmi's case - they were issued with deportation orders.


Today the seven-judge court ruled unanimously that deporting them would breach the Human Rights Convention Article 3 which bans "inhuman or degrading treatment".

Good old euro judges, making the world a safer place. I presume those two wont be very employable so its lucky they can live on housing benefit and what have you here for the rest of their lives.

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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Congrats, you're safe. ;)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • rjs
    rjs Posts: 11 Forumite
    The skills these two have are obviously in demand here. Welcome to Britain 'The country that likes to please everyone'
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Can't we get them jobs as pirates? I believe it's a bit of a speciality in Somalia.
  • bengalknights
    bengalknights Posts: 5,021 Forumite
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    How would they face ill treatment at home if somalia doesnt actually have a government to ill treat them?
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    edited 28 June 2011 at 9:01PM
    How would they face ill treatment at home if somalia doesnt actually have a government to ill treat them?

    Because it doesn't have to be a government who does the ill-treating. Under Article 3 of the ECHR, it can be a non-state agent or actor.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • bengalknights
    bengalknights Posts: 5,021 Forumite
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    So whats the repurcussions upon the british government if they are ill treated here by non-state agent or actor?
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Nothing, unless there is a failure in the system to try to protect. In this country, people are subject to cruel and inhumane treatment by non-state actors, but the state tries to prevent it.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • diable
    diable Posts: 5,258 Forumite
    Because it doesn't have to be a government who does the ill-treating. Under Article 3 of the ECHR, it can be a non-state agent or actor.
    I blame !!!!! enders
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