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grizzly1911 wrote: »Paying for talent maybe, the going rate like all those clever bankers:rotfl::rotfl:
If you dont like banks then dont put your money in them......blaming the bankers for everything is sad. You must be a sad person tbh.
Paying for talent of teachers? hahahahahaha, everyone knows they had no problem getting teachers before they gave them huge pay rises. And they are terrible at their jobs, have you seen how badly most children are at numeracy and writing when they come out of school?
O dear.I am not a financial expert, and the post above is merely my opinion.:j0 -
As little as I can to get away with itI am not a financial expert, and the post above is merely my opinion.:j0
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Good point, and that's what most employers will pay their staff. But seriously, you're the new Health Secretary, what would you pay fully qualified hospital consultants? As in a £ per annum amount.
I know who I would rather pay a decent salary to.
I know a lot of good doctors and consultants. Like the ones who saved my sight without a qualm in a most unassuming way at the drop of a hat.
I also know a good number of teachers and one of the things they will tell you is that in a lot of cases if uneducated, underprivileged, source material goes in, there is only a limit to what they can do, with the time and resources they have available to them. If parents don't do their bit you can't blame the teachers.
I don't blame the bankers, but they were immensely culpable along with the Governments that allowed them to do it of all persuasions.
The salaries and bonuses they (not the rank and file by the way) get paid are way out of kilter to their worth to society.
As for being sad well I won't feed you on that one I'll leave that to the Billy Goats."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Why do you put so little value on the services that a hospital consultant provides?
They paid consultants more so they had to work less hours to maintain the same lifestyle. THis hurt health service performance. For any business (which the NHS is - its just a public sector business) to be effective, it needs to control its staff costs. Just giving out massive pay rises makes no sense. Its an awful decision.
The NHS is a shambles.I am not a financial expert, and the post above is merely my opinion.:j0 -
They paid consultants more so they had to work less hours to maintain the same lifestyle. THis hurt health service performance. For any business (which the NHS is - its just a public sector business) to be effective, it needs to control its staff costs. Just giving out massive pay rises makes no sense. Its an awful decision.
Just to ask for a third time, what salary would you pay to a fully qualified hospital consultant if you were in charge of setting these things?0 -
They paid consultants more so they had to work less hours to maintain the same lifestyle. THis hurt health service performance. For any business (which the NHS is - its just a public sector business) to be effective, it needs to control its staff costs. Just giving out massive pay rises makes no sense. Its an awful decision.
The NHS is a shambles.
Fair enough if you have that view, maybe they received a disproportionately high pay increase, but in general surely the right attitude towards the remuneration of highly trained, highly skilled medical professionals shouldn't be to "pay them as little as possible"?
Almost every professional is motivated at least partly by the prospect of earning more money to climb the career ladder, acquire new skills etc, including doctors I would presume. If you halved the salaries of consultants, I think it would have some kind of negative effect in the medium/long term of the quality of consultants/number of doctors choosing to become consultants.0 -
Just to ask for a third time, what salary would you pay to a fully qualified hospital consultant if you were in charge of setting these things?
What sort of question is this? I would pay them as little as possible. I would do this by freezing their wages untill I could no longer fill all the posts I needed to. This probably wouldnt be the case for about 20 years.I am not a financial expert, and the post above is merely my opinion.:j0
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