Council house? Not if you are on over £100k pa

lostinrates

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Italy decides who should have social housing, on a yearly basis. If you don't fit into that criteria, then you leave the property. They treat social housing as a stopgap and not a way of life. They also have very strict rules on who can have social housing in the first place.

though there is some illegal subletting of LA flats...partly because of the short term nature. we mistakenly went to view a couple before recognising how to discern legit short term lets from these illegal sublets from the advertising.

lemonjelly

There's ways around this of course.

I'll earn £100k, & my partner could be a "lone parent" whom I visit occasionally...;)

An extremely sensationalist story. Having worked in and with social housing, there is absolutely no doubt that reform of the system is needed. But that could be said about almost every system. My fear is that a dangerous ideology which could be counter productive could be used at this time.

By far and away the much bigger problem in social housing is under occupation. If the government were actually serious about addressing social housing, this is what they'd be addressing. They won't though, because it wouldn't attract headlines like the one in the OP. Further, it would lead to cases of 80 year old doris being thrown out of her home that she's lived in for 50+ years. Not so media friendly. The easiest decisions aren't always the best ones...

Graham_Devon

lemonjelly wrote: »

There's ways around this of course.

I'll earn £100k, & my partner could be a "lone parent" whom I visit occasionally...;)

An extremely sensationalist story. Having worked in and with social housing, there is absolutely no doubt that reform of the system is needed. But that could be said about almost every system. My fear is that a dangerous ideology which could be counter productive could be used at this time.

By far and away the much bigger problem in social housing is under occupation. If the government were actually serious about addressing social housing, this is what they'd be addressing. They won't though, because it wouldn't attract headlines like the one in the OP. Further, it would lead to cases of 80 year old doris being thrown out of her home that she's lived in for 50+ years. Not so media friendly. The easiest decisions aren't always the best ones...

I reckon they may be dipping their toes. Go for an easy headline, one which most will agree with. Those in council homes will agree, those on the waiting lists will agree, those with no involvement will agree, as they see their taxes as paying for it.

Once this is over, and support gained....IF it goes ahead, then I reckon there may be more in the pipeline, such as the underoccupancy you reference.

Apparently there are 2 people to every council household on average. So like you say, under occupancy is a huge issue.

In my mind, any progress on this is good progress. Anything that free's up housing for those in need, rather than those in it just because they have it, is good progress in my mind.

ukcarper

lemonjelly wrote: »

There's ways around this of course.

I'll earn £100k, & my partner could be a "lone parent" whom I visit occasionally...;)

An extremely sensationalist story. Having worked in and with social housing, there is absolutely no doubt that reform of the system is needed. But that could be said about almost every system. My fear is that a dangerous ideology which could be counter productive could be used at this time.

By far and away the much bigger problem in social housing is under occupation. If the government were actually serious about addressing social housing, this is what they'd be addressing. They won't though, because it wouldn't attract headlines like the one in the OP. Further, it would lead to cases of 80 year old doris being thrown out of her home that she's lived in for 50+ years. Not so media friendly. The easiest decisions aren't always the best ones...

Under occupancy is a problem but is there suitable accommodation to put the 80 year old Doris in.

lostinrates

ukcarper wrote: »

Under occupancy is a problem but is there suitable accommodation to put the 80 year old Doris in.

It seems to me there are lots in the private sector, among stock not available to younger people. My grandmother went in to a one bed flat, and after that it was on the market for a couple of years. Likewise, a death in dh's family has a flat in a lovely but not too ''exclusive'' block for the over 55s (and most of them are WELL over 55) and that's been on the market for a year now at least.

ukcarper

lostinrates wrote: »

It seems to me there are lots in the private sector, among stock not available to younger people. My grandmother went in to a one bed flat, and after that it was on the market for a couple of years. Likewise, a death in dh's family has a flat in a lovely but not too ''exclusive'' block for the over 55s (and most of them are WELL over 55) and that's been on the market for a year now at least.

I would imagine there are but who will bear the cost.

chewmylegoff

ukcarper wrote: »

I would imagine there are but who will bear the cost.

i imagine the housing benefit that is covering doris' 3 bed council house will probably help.

ukcarper

chewmylegoff wrote: »

i imagine the housing benefit that is covering doris' 3 bed council house will probably help.

Might go towards it you never know it might even cover the service charge.

chewmylegoff

ukcarper wrote: »

Might go towards it you never know it might even cover the service charge.

a quick look on rightmove suggests that the rent (which includes service charge) would not be much of a problem, at least not compared to the lack of supply, as there 779 retirement properties to for rent in the entire country (including the outer hebrides) which suggests that this is unlikely to provide a solution!

i reckon bob crow should be retired and made to live in one though. pref outer hebrides.

lostinrates

chewmylegoff wrote: »

a quick look on rightmove suggests that the rent (which includes service charge) would not be much of a problem, at least not compared to the lack of supply, as there 779 retirement properties to for rent in the entire country (including the outer hebrides) which suggests that this is unlikely to provide a solution!

i reckon bob crow should be retired and made to live in one though. pref outer hebrides.

Crikey...half of those must be within an hour of me! I see signs for them all the time! * edit* rightmove checked and yes, its sales I'm seeing not rentals.....but SO many.

I honesty cannot remember how much my grandmothers cost, but I do know the building she was in was always about 1/3 empty and wasn't dear. Purchase price was a lot lower than a standard 23 bedroom house in that town. service charge wouldn't have....but I can't beieve a company owning/managing wouldn't rather receive half a service charge on say 75% of its empty stock than nothing? I don't hesitate to agree, on current pricing it wouldn't be affordable in all likely hood...but this whole thread is about change.


what I strongly feel though is that I think if and when we deal with underhabitation I think we need to find permanant or v. long term alternative...I'd be scared if I were moved once that it could happen again and again, and I know moving unsettled, disorientated my grandmother and IMO exacerbated her dementia. And that was with support of a family.