Public Sector Workers

saintjammyswine

Agreed, I work in Further Education and redundancy is 1 week per WHOLE year worked. I have spent 2.75 years in public sector and 15 years in private sector. Both have good and bad but it is a falacy (sp?) that there is more job security in public. Also many council workers are now employed by private companies such as Capita.

saintjammyswine

Hammyman wrote: »

Because you're actually having to do some work? Every time I've been in a hospital, there seems to be plenty of time for nursing staff to sit around drinking cups of tea and talking. Obviously not as hard worked as they claim.

Surely this is not a serious post?

relic

saintjammyswine wrote: »

Surely this is not a serious post?

I actually have to agree with him to some extent.

Since finding out my partner is pregnant, we have had regular visits to the hospital, and the amount of times i've seen 10+ nurses stood around the bit with all the phones and computers is ridiculous. Then again, i've been to other bits where they just don't have enough people. It's bad management, and a total lack of respect for the money involved in any business, I can guarantee you any self respecting private company wouldn't have that many people doing absolutely nothing.

retro.kid

Welcome to the real world!

I'm an IT manager for a private sector architects firm. Recession etc, means cuts, redundancies and budget suspensions. In the last three years we are running a very tight ship now, and hopefully things are starting to improve.

As a result of further dept cuts, i had to decommission space we leased from a data centre. I was up there last month to remove the last of the equipment and saw a lot of empty cabinets as other firms have obviously done the same. What i did see which surprised me, was full cabinets full of the latest technology - all public sector based.

We've been through it all, while the Public sector merrily ploughed on as if nothing was happening. We've had our company pension scheme suspended, a 20% pay cut to keep our jobs, and no pay rise since 2008.

Yet the public sector threaten strike action at the thought of small increase. Reality check. You also have your final salary pensions - we don't, and the wastage and inefficiency i hear of within public sector departments really makes my blood boil.

I have friends, who do the same job as me - but in Public Sector, and if i had a fraction of the budget they had to play with, i'd be a happy man. Reality is, i'm running 6 sites, on equipment which in some cases is over 8 years old. We haven't bought a new computer or laptop in the business for over 3 years and a lot of my job is spent keeping the old stuff going.

We're doing ok, we're getting by - but it ain't easy - not just in my department but across the board.

So welcome to the real world public sector - it's going to be hard, and sorry if i come across bitter but in all seriousness you have had it to easy too long.

I'm not the only one to feel like that is seems....

The Government’s hope that the private sector will provide employment opportunities for people losing their jobs in the public sector has been dealt a blow today by the results of a Barclays & Financial Times survey of private firms.



The survey results showed that more than 50% of the businesses contacted said that although they were planning to create jobs this year, they would not hire public sector workers who have been made redundant as it was felt they would not have the right skills.

yellowlawn

Why is the Public Sector being punished like this when it's the banks that brought us to this in the first place and they get off Scot free. I say the most secure job today is within the Private Sector working for a bank.

You'll find the waste in the Public Sector comes from senior management. I can say this as it appeared in the local paper but my last job at the local Council, one year a deputy director there claimed over £80,000 in expenses. He's still in his job and got his office moved nearer to the CEO's.

michelle1506

YAWN. If that's all you've got to say then you can toddle off now.

retro.kid wrote: »

Welcome to the real world!

I'm an IT manager for a private sector architects firm. Recession etc, means cuts, redundancies and budget suspensions. In the last three years we are running a very tight ship now, and hopefully things are starting to improve.

As a result of further dept cuts, i had to decommission space we leased from a data centre. I was up there last month to remove the last of the equipment and saw a lot of empty cabinets as other firms have obviously done the same. What i did see which surprised me, was full cabinets full of the latest technology - all public sector based.

We've been through it all, while the Public sector merrily ploughed on as if nothing was happening. We've had our company pension scheme suspended, a 20% pay cut to keep our jobs, and no pay rise since 2008.

Yet the public sector threaten strike action at the thought of small increase. Reality check. You also have your final salary pensions - we don't, and the wastage and inefficiency i hear of within public sector departments really makes my blood boil.

I have friends, who do the same job as me - but in Public Sector, and if i had a fraction of the budget they had to play with, i'd be a happy man. Reality is, i'm running 6 sites, on equipment which in some cases is over 8 years old. We haven't bought a new computer or laptop in the business for over 3 years and a lot of my job is spent keeping the old stuff going.

We're doing ok, we're getting by - but it ain't easy - not just in my department but across the board.

So welcome to the real world public sector - it's going to be hard, and sorry if i come across bitter but in all seriousness you have had it to easy too long.

I'm not the only one to feel like that is seems....

retro.kid

michelle1506 wrote: »

YAWN. If that's all you've got to say then you can toddle off now.

Spot the public sector worker :rotfl:

Got plenty more to say on the subject actually, but i've made my points and said enough on this thread. And i'm sure i won't be the last either.

Toddling off now. See ya

ingson

I find it crazy that any private sector workers think public have it better off. I've worked in the public sector for years and colleagues that have left to do the same job in the private sector have often gained double the salary, before you all cry 'why don't you' I would if I could although the same jobs public/private are being cut left right and centre.

We've had pay freezes for years, are considerably lower paid than our similarly skilled private sector counterparts. Supposedly this is because there is security in the public sector. This hasn't been true for years, about twenty years ago smaller offices started to go and it's continued ever since. The 'only' benefit of public sector work used to be the enhanced pensions, but alas these are on the out too.

So there's really no point saying 'welcome to the real world' as we've been living in it with you for a very very long time. There's no huge difference, just a outdated attitude that public sector workers have it easy.

The truth is everyone has it hard right now and everywhere it making cuts. If someone is struggling, scared, at threat of redunduncy then they deserve support and sympathy wherever they may work. Just because you 'think' you have it harder doesn't mean that anyone living with a metaphorical axe above their head should feel any better or humbled because they've had it easier 'in your opinion'.

Hammyman

saintjammyswine wrote: »

Surely this is not a serious post?

A perfectly serious post. Probably why my local NHS Trust is in so much trouble. FIL spent 17 weeks in hospital awaiting a triple bypass with much of that time being due to nothing more than sheer incompentency and the inability of one person to talk to another IN THE SAME DEPARTMENT. We got plenty of time to see first hand.

ILW

My wife works in care and has taken the same resident to an appointment with a consultant four times som far. Each time has got as far as sitting down with the highly paid doctor, only to be told that they do not have the file so book another appointment. Someone along the line is wasting small fortunes.