granted annual leave then cancelled

aka666

i work for nhs cardiff, does anyone no if i had annual leave granted and then cancelled, because we are not allowed to book 24 december off, i can still take it?? thanks all

Hammyman

If you're not allowed to book it, you can't take it off as holiday. It is perfectly legal to state when holidays can or cannot be taken.

SarEl

And if it is a new policy, then yes, they can cancel it because they only have to give you twice as much notice as the amount of time you asked to book - 7 months would more than qualify!

ohreally

If your a/l leave has been authorised by you manager it should not be subsequently rescinded.

Have a read through the a/l policy document as changes should be agreed with staff side before implementation.

Inform your steward and request they investigate and sort the problem out.

aka666

yes it was authorised even had a/l form returned and granted, to be a little more clear, i start work 23rd december at 7.30 pm i wanted a/l from 2am till 6am,
but i think that they are now classing it has the 24th, but thanks for the reply guys, got my manger on it and have said if this is the case i will book from 11pm to 6am.

SarEl

ohreally wrote: »

If your a/l leave has been authorised by you manager it should not be subsequently rescinded.

Sorry, but this is incorect. The law permits an employer to rescind approved annual leave, provided, as I said, they give twice as much notice as the amount of time booked.

ohreally

SarEl wrote: »

Sorry, but this is incorect. The law permits an employer to rescind approved annual leave, provided, as I said, they give twice as much notice as the amount of time booked.

I don't need a lecture in statutory law thank you very much.

In this care we're specifically referring to workplace procedures that go well beyond legal minimum duty.

bluenoseam

I worked in retail for the best part of 8 years over 3 companies and there was only one thing which was uniform within those three companies "no holidays in December" - i'd imagine it's the same in most other places, so it's hardly surprising they've knocked it back.

SarEl

ohreally wrote: »

I don't need a lecture in statutory law thank you very much.

In this care we're specifically referring to workplace procedures that go well beyond legal minimum duty.

The fact that a particular workplace policy may go beyond the legal requirement in no way prevents an employer from resorting to the legal framework. An employer can always cancel approved leave if they wish to do so, within the limits of the law, and no workplace policy will prevent them from doing so. And I cannot imagine that any NHS policy does not contain provision for cancelling leave - they may have emergency circumstances where there is no choice but to do so, and at much shorter notice than 7 months.

However, I invite you to read what you wrote. You said "If your a/l leave has been authorised by you manager it should not be subsequently rescinded." Nowhere does it say that your advice was based on policy (and I must assume you know what the policy says in Cardiff NHS since the OP didn't quote it or even say what they do for a living) - this is a blanket statement that it should not be rescinded. The law allows for this to happen, which is what I added. Your statement was misleading at best.

ohreally

I'm content to stand by my post. Emergencies aside (which this clearly isn't), this situation should not be an issue of contention.

Lets await the outcome.

relic

ohreally wrote: »

I'm content to stand by my post. Emergencies aside (which this clearly isn't), this situation should not be an issue of contention.

Lets await the outcome.

Probably the best reply ever.

"I know im wrong, but i'm gonna carry on what i'm saying. Let's hope we don't find out the outcome."

:T