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Real Life MMD: Should she fake the claim to her company?

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  • My Mum was in a similar position, instructed by her boss to falsify figures. In her case it was the difference between actual sales in a shop and the amount banked (after the boss had 'borrowed' some to buy his lunch or whatever). She hated doing it, but loved the job otherwise, so she was constantly battling her conscience. Anyway, a couple of years down the line the boss got himself a young lady friend who needed a job. Yes, you've guessed it - he sacked my Mum for inconsistencies in the book keeping, and put this girl in the post. The case went to a tribunal, but without evidence it was his word against hers and she lost not only her job, but any chance of securing another similar role. So DON'T DO IT!
  • tallgirld
    tallgirld Posts: 484 Forumite
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    When the (you know what) hits the fan he will probably let you take all the blame.

    So my advice is tell him to commit his fraud HIMSELF!!
  • JayD
    JayD Posts: 746 Forumite
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    I think I am in the majority here when I say, fill out the form but get the boss to sign it. Also, make copies etc so that, if there is ever an ivestigation, you can prove you were not the one at the forefront of the fraud and should you ever dismissed unfairly, you can show that fraud was being committed and you were refusing to be involved.

    It is tricky when your job is on the line. We would often love to take the moral high ground and refuse to do things that we know are wrong, or even report the perpetrators but we also have to be realistic about our own situations. So, I say do what your boss is asking but get him to sign it and do everything you can to cover your own tail.
  • Certainly not. Tell your boss that if you worked overtime you would not claim for more than you had worked as you want your employer to know that he can always trust you. Explain that you so you are always honest in your dealings because you feel trust is important in both your private and business life which is why you feel, it would be wrong to submit a false claim. If he pushes the matter then you have to decide if this job is really worth keeping.
  • mdb99jh
    mdb99jh Posts: 379 Forumite
    Refuse.

    Job done, next question?
  • tara747
    tara747 Posts: 10,238 Forumite
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    edited 26 May 2011 at 3:31PM
    Absolutely 100% refuse. Never in a million years would I do this, and the courts should protect whistleblowing in this case.
    My Mum was in a similar position, instructed by her boss to falsify figures. In her case it was the difference between actual sales in a shop and the amount banked (after the boss had 'borrowed' some to buy his lunch or whatever). She hated doing it, but loved the job otherwise, so she was constantly battling her conscience. Anyway, a couple of years down the line the boss got himself a young lady friend who needed a job. Yes, you've guessed it - he sacked my Mum for inconsistencies in the book keeping, and put this girl in the post. The case went to a tribunal, but without evidence it was his word against hers and she lost not only her job, but any chance of securing another similar role. So DON'T DO IT!

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  • billydo
    billydo Posts: 11 Forumite
    edited 26 May 2011 at 4:58PM
    honesty is the best policy, These people who think they can live to their rules only ... do eventually come to a crop.
    if boss is a one man bander, get a small tape recorder, and get a recording of him telling you to add extra....if he gets tooty.....I would tribunal all the way. billydo:beer:
  • Pellyman
    Pellyman Posts: 53 Forumite
    First: Friend does as instructed.

    Second: Friend start actively looking for a new job immediately.

    Third: If friend is lucky enough to be offered a new job,take it.

    Four: Friend resigns and move on.

    Five: Friend advises the supplier of previous employer about the dishonesty - ideally quoting any references available.

    Regretably, if 'three' proves impossible then, in the current circumstances, 'friend hangs on in there'! However, tell friend to keep a note of this and any further dishonesty - they never know when it might come in handy! If the boss is so stupid that he can't be bothered to do his own dirty work he deserves to be 'shopped' at some point - but not at your friend's expense.
  • beefinbed
    beefinbed Posts: 53 Forumite
    This happened where i worked, my boss and a colleague were in on it together.... until i found these 'goods' and went straight to senior management cause i knew something wasn't right - not sure what though. They got in alot of trouble!
    Saving for a house :T
    Will question every purchase I make!
    :j
  • spursliz
    spursliz Posts: 38 Forumite
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    What is this about? Faking claims - certainly not. If your boss wants to lie, then stand up and speak out. It is dishonest and who would like to have that done to them? Please don't let there be anybody who thinks it is acceptable practice to lie about damage and get things for nothing. It is not right.
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