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Husband's employer is getting cheeky

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  • DeeMarie89
    DeeMarie89 Posts: 145 Forumite
    Horace, have you read anything I've written?
    When I was rushed into hospital, both times, he asked, an was given permission. This time, he said he had to leave due to a family emergency, something he has a LEGAL RIGHT to do. Yes, he could have perhaps gone about this a little more politely, but he was worried and flustered. It doesn't change the fact that he has a right to time off, and a right not to be penalised for this. It is very rare I'm so ill. In the 2 and a half years we've been together, these are the only three times that I have been so ill. And two out of these three times were hospital emergencies, I always struggle through anything so as not to disturb him. He had never had time off before this, except for when I went into labour, and even then, he offered to come into work!
  • DeeMarie89
    DeeMarie89 Posts: 145 Forumite
    liney wrote: »
    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/parents/moneyandworkentitlements/workandfamilies/dg_10026555

    Your husband is entitled to take time off work in the case of an emergency, but it is to arrange care, not care for you or your child himself, and it is regonised that two days is the maximum time expected to be taken. The two times he has come home early, it was quicker for him to look after our son for the couple of hours. There would have been no point arranging longer term care for our son, as he was already home. As I say, it was a few hours both times, not long enough to require longer term care

    Personnel Today http://www.personneltoday.com/articles/2008/01/21/43979/emergency-time-off-to-care-for-dependants.html give an example of a case where a ET ruled that Emergency Dependant Leave is not for extended use as childcare and that other leave should be arranged if the need is past two days. Other leave was arranged, he asked if he could take his holiday entitlement for the two weeks to look after me and our son, and was told yes


    In 4 months you have had rather alot of 'emergencies'. How long has your DH worked for this company?
    my husband has worked there for about 3 years, and until the past four months, has never called in sick etc
  • jinky67
    jinky67 Posts: 47,812 Forumite
    DeeMarie89 wrote: »
    Horace, have you read anything I've written?
    When I was rushed into hospital, both times, he asked, an was given permission. This time, he said he had to leave due to a family emergency, something he has a LEGAL RIGHT to do. Yes, he could have perhaps gone about this a little more politely, but he was worried and flustered. It doesn't change the fact that he has a right to time off, and a right not to be penalised for this. It is very rare I'm so ill. In the 2 and a half years we've been together, these are the only three times that I have been so ill. And two out of these three times were hospital emergencies, I always struggle through anything so as not to disturb him. He had never had time off before this, except for when I went into labour, and even then, he offered to come into work!

    He has a right to ASK, and it doesnt have to be granted, although most decent employers would give the time off
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  • liney
    liney Posts: 5,121 Forumite
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    edited 21 April 2011 at 10:00AM
    jinky67 wrote: »
    He has a right to ASK, and it doesnt have to be granted, although most decent employers would give the time off

    Sorry, that's incorrect.

    He has the right to take the time and tell the employer at the earliest opportunity. http://www.sykesanderson.com/Employment/articles/time_off_work.asp

    Emergency Leave is for an emergency so by defination can't be requested in advance.
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  • Tiddlywinks
    Tiddlywinks Posts: 5,777 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    He wasn't legally 'entitled to' take two weeks off to look after you.

    You still don't get it - your OH needs to be seen to be a dependable member of the team - in a short time he has taken 3 short notice breaks... look at it minus the emotion... doesn't look great, does it?
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  • liney
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    DeeMarie89 wrote: »
    my husband has worked there for about 3 years, and until the past four months, has never called in sick etc


    In which case they are being a little unreasonable considering that 2 out of the 3 times were due to hospitalisation. They agreed to holiday for the longer absence, and it is unfortunate that the other two have been close to this time.

    The employer hasn't said they aren't sending him on the course have they? They have said there is now some doubt. In other words they don't want this absence to become a habit.

    My advice to you, is that he keeps his head down, and turns up to work come hell or high water for at least the next 6 months to prove reliability and that this was an unfortunate cumulation of events.
    "On behalf of teachers, I'd like to dedicate this award to Michael Gove and I mean dedicate in the Anglo Saxon sense which means insert roughly into the anus of." My hero, Mr Steer.
  • DeeMarie89
    DeeMarie89 Posts: 145 Forumite
    He wasn't legally 'entitled to' take two weeks off to look after you.

    You still don't get it - your OH needs to be seen to be a dependable member of the team - in a short time he has taken 3 short notice breaks... look at it minus the emotion... doesn't look great, does it?

    He was granted holiday leave. Something he was entitled to, and his employer granted him said holiday leave, so there really is no issue there. He asked for, and was given two weeks holiday. What he did with that holiday is neither here nor there, the fact is he didn't have two weeks "emergency leave"
  • liney
    liney Posts: 5,121 Forumite
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    He wasn't legally 'entitled to' take two weeks off to look after you.

    You still don't get it - your OH needs to be seen to be a dependable member of the team - in a short time he has taken 3 short notice breaks... look at it minus the emotion... doesn't look great, does it?

    He didn't take Emergency Dependant Leave for two weeks, although that's not clear in the origional post. He took EDL, then the rest as holiday.
    "On behalf of teachers, I'd like to dedicate this award to Michael Gove and I mean dedicate in the Anglo Saxon sense which means insert roughly into the anus of." My hero, Mr Steer.
  • Googlewhacker
    Googlewhacker Posts: 3,887 Forumite
    DeeMarie89 wrote: »
    He was granted holiday leave. Something he was entitled to, and his employer granted him said holiday leave, so there really is no issue there. He asked for, and was given two weeks holiday. What he did with that holiday is neither here nor there, the fact is he didn't have two weeks "emergency leave"

    No but did he book it months in advance or did he turn up and ask for it because you had been rushed into hospital?

    If its the former then its just a lucky coincidence in timing, if its the latter its the employer being nice and allowing it when they didn't have to.
    The Googlewhacker referance is to Dave Gorman and not to my opinion of the search engine!

    If I give you advice it is only a view and always always take professional advice before acting!!!

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  • Googlewhacker
    Googlewhacker Posts: 3,887 Forumite
    At the end of the day, if he kicks up a fuss I can only see it ending up worse for him. He as said before needs to keep his head down, be humble and carry on working.

    Also if he is really looking for promotions then maybe he needs to be looking at other companies?
    The Googlewhacker referance is to Dave Gorman and not to my opinion of the search engine!

    If I give you advice it is only a view and always always take professional advice before acting!!!

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