CRB CHECK NIGHTMARE please help me urgent

Savvy_Sue

Two points: for an enhanced CRB it's often all there forever, and as I said before, just because it SHOULD have come off doesn't mean it HAS come off! It's possible that the police only remove things after five years if the person actually requests them to do so.

Gordon_Hose

Nothing ever gets "removed". It's all always held on the PNC and it depends what level of CRB/Security Check is being done.

A basic CRB will provide details of un-spent convictions.

A Standard CRB will provide details of ALL cautions, warnings, reprimands, and convictions.

An enhanced CRB contains the same as a Standard check, plus information held on the old POCA & POVA lists.

Wellery82

If something is "spent" then under what circumstances can an employer refuse the job on the grounds of this - ie if someone has a job offer, and a CRB shows up a spent conviction?

Gordon_Hose

Depends on the job, what the conviction is for and how the employer views it.

shamrock77

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

CRB checks only show up the people who got caught.

Yip i agree & most people were young & foolish thats it.

Savvy_Sue

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Depends on the job, what the conviction is for and how the employer views it.

and whether the employer was expecting it or not.

I was once in the position where an applicant did not disclose at the application stage, but once they'd been offered a job and realised we'd be doing a check, they asked to speak to me and explained that they had some very old convictions which would show up.

Now, we'd have been within our rights to withdraw the offer straight away, but after careful consideration we decided to go ahead, as long as what came back was roughly what had been disclosed.

If they hadn't told us beforehand, that check would have meant the job would would have been withdrawn.

patman99

Don't forget, a lot of companies run peoples details through the Scout Association's clipping service. This holds details on every person who has ever appeared in court and been acquitted of their crimes.

fred7777

Jimavfc82 wrote: »

If something is "spent" then under what circumstances can an employer refuse the job on the grounds of this - ie if someone has a job offer, and a CRB shows up a spent conviction?

Under any circumstances they want.

It is unlawful to discriminate against a person because they have one of the "protected characteristics", which are, age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage and civil partnership, race, religion or belief, sex, and sexual orientation.

Having a criminal record or spent conviction isn't a "protected characteristic" so an employer is free to discriminate or not offer a person a job.

shellsuit

My word, this thread has certainly opened my eyes!

When I was a teen (17/18) I got a caution for being drunk and disorderly.

What infact happened was I'd had 1 drink (yes 1!), when a friend of mine got into a fight with a girl. The girl was on the floor and my friend was kicking her, so I dragged her away and told her she was out of order. She smacked me so I smacked her back ~ which turned into a fight. The next thing I know is some bloke is dragging me away with his arm around my neck choking me, so I managed to get him off me, and slapped his face because I didn't have a clue who he was and he bloody hurt me! Oh and with the force he dragged me, he snapped a quite thick gold necklace/locket which I was wearing, which must have got picked up by someone.

He only turned out to be a bloody undercover copper.

I got thrown in a meat wagon on my own, and I even remember him saying to me in the station that I had a good slap on me?!

I didn't know a caution would stay with me forever! But thinking back now, why would they do me for being D&D when I'd not been drinking? Why wouldn't they have had me for assault? Or was it because there were witnesses who saw him almost throttling me??

If I'd known then what I'd known now after reading this, I would never have accepted the caution!

Gordon_Hose

If you don't accept the caution they'll deal with it through the courts, which would probably have involved D&D, Affray and Assault Police.

So the caution was the best option in your case.