We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.
This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Help!!!
Comments
-
aus,
I'm finding your last question a little hard to follow, but the general problem you have is you are worth chasing because you have an asset which is worth more than the debts.
No one can make you take out a loan, but if your creditors take you to court and obtain a county court judgment against you, your assets can be sold to pay the debt.0 -
In theory yes they could petition for your bankruptcy/try and go for the house. In practice it's more likely they will go for the CCJ and then go for a charging order. The charging order will just sit there until you sell the house, where they will get there money back. It is very very very unlikely they will try and force a sale. I'm not 100% sure whether they can charge interest on this debt though

I really wouldn't go for the secured loan approach - 1) they appear to understand you are having difficulties and have agreed a payment plan for now and 2) if you did get a secured loan and missed any payments it puts your house at a lot more risk.
Your best bet is to contact the debt charities again and go through it all with them.
Try National Debtline or CCCS if the CAB have a ridiculous waiting list in your area.
dfMaking my money go further with MSE :j
How much can I save in 2012 challenge
75/1200 :eek:0 -
No one can make you take out a loan, but if your creditors take you to court and obtain a county court judgment against you, your assets can be sold to pay the debt.
Only if the judge allows the CCJ to be registered as a charge on the property. Even then the debt would be paid when the house is sold. To force a sale the creditor is going to have to persuade the judge to do so for a very small percentage of the house value.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
My real question is can I be forced into bancruptcy by being made to take out a secured loan to repay this, and other debts which I would then not be able to afford, as the total debt comes to 9K and I wouldn't be able to afford the repayments on a loan that big. ie: lose the house.
You are jumping ahead of yourself here.
You could end up with a CCJ or a secured charge on your home. Whether an individual creditor would go to the expense of forcing you into bankruptcy is debatable. No-one can force you to take a secured loan.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
How many people have a forced order for sale against them as a result of a debt? Any at all? There must be thousands of people with charging orders yet I believe forced sale orders are incredibly incredibly rare. What judge in the land is going to let a ceditor sell a house to get back 6,000 on a 80,000 ish house, with someone in who got into difficulties because their partner unfortunately passed away - think of the media backlash that would create.
Your best bet is to continue as you are and make payments for what you can whether that be 5 pounds a month or whatever - this will show a judge (if it goes to court) that you are being entirely reasonable and doing your best to repay the debt. It might help to get the debt charities on side as they can to a certain extent shield you from the pressure tactics of some of the debt collection companies but at the end of the day they can threaten court all they like but frankly you know you owe money, you'd be paying what you could and it's therefore highly likely a judge would make an order that you continue to repay them at 5 pounds per month (or whatever).
dfMaking my money go further with MSE :j
How much can I save in 2012 challenge
75/1200 :eek:0 -
If you intend paying all your debts then you should pay the higher interest ones first along with your priority debts like your mortgage.
Are there any family members that could help you with this. If so, you could show your reduced income to a creditor and tell them that you have someone who will make a one off full and final payment in settlement of the debt. Could make it cheaper in the long run, then you could pay off the family without feeling pressure or high interest.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
dancingfairy wrote: »How many people have a forced order for sale against them as a result of a debt? Any at all? There must be thousands of people with charging orders yet I believe forced sale orders are incredibly incredibly rare. What judge in the land is going to let a ceditor sell a house to get back 6,000 on a 80,000 ish house, with someone in who got into difficulties because their partner unfortunately passed away - think of the media backlash that would create.
df
Totally agree. Please don't be scared into doing anything rash.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
Definitely talk to the people in the link mel12 posted first. Whatever you do try to avoid taking on more/different debt to pay this off, but do keep paying an affordable amount whilst this gets sorted out.Truth always poses doubts & questions. Only lies are 100% believable, because they don't need to justify reality. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon, The Labyrinth of the Spirits0
-
I agree with other posters - don't take out any more debt to sort this and don't increase your mortgage.
Do you have furniture or something that you could sell to try to clear some of the debt? If you put up a soa we might be able to help you work out how to shuffle the debt around.
I agree you should keep paying them £5 per month or what you can afford.24.06.14 12 st 12 lb (waist 45" at fattest part of belly)
7.10.14 11 st 9 lb
26.02.15 12 st 5 1/2 lb
27.05.15 11 st 5.6 lb
4.8.17 11 st 1lb
Target weight: 10 1/2 stone0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 352.2K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 454.3K Spending & Discounts
- 245.2K Work, Benefits & Business
- 600.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 177.5K Life & Family
- 259K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards

