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murphydog999

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

meta-analysis of prospective epidemiologic studies (347,747 subjects) showed that there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD.

http://www.ajcn.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract

Thanks for the link Eric. This is from a more recent study

An independent association of saturated fat intake with CVD risk has not been consistently shown in prospective epidemiologic studies, although some have provided evidence of an increased risk in young individuals and in women. Replacement of saturated fat by polyunsaturated or monounsaturated fat lowers both LDL and HDL cholesterol.

However, the study you link to is a 'meta-analysis' of a number of studies, which in my humble opinion, like most studies that are cherry-picked, are all to be taken with a pinch of salt. (excuse the pun)

The underlying factor is that a reduction in most peoples intake of saturated, and trans fat, can only be beneficial thing.

Thanks for backing up my weights suggestion, however a combination of weights/resistance exercise and cardio - as I said at the start - would, considering what Danny wants to achieve, be more beneficial - again IMHO.

My 'I want to do it my way' husband and his training partner did weights only, and ended up just bulking out without losing fat, so just mass with no definition. Not great.

Before we start trading training techniques and their benefits, I know different things work for different people, and it's not a particularly professional thing to do, to advise someone blind, but hopefully Danny has taken the generality on board.

Eric_Pisch

no reason for not doing cardio on none resistant days or doing a mix depending on time, especially if your time poor, 3 good compound exercises are pretty easy to mix into most things in an hour in a gym

there is defiantly some benefit to eating more poly and mono fats, or just more fat in general, although there is some concern over eating vegetable oils that are not cold pressed (ie arnt natural for us to eat), but in general cholesterol does not need to be feared or avoided, infact cholesterol is needed by every cell in the body, hence why we make it. There are many other studies that show there's no link, and if memory serves me right no one has actually been able to prove that there is a link in the last 40 odd years of testing between ingested cholesterol and blood serum cholesterol

ill see if i can find the article i have that shows that 51% of people who die from CHD or CVD have low cholesterol / LDL readings

KimmyMarky

Hi

Just wanted to ask a question. I'm a 28 year old female. I have also been using Livestrong to track my food. I'm starting back training Sunday, even though I have been within my calories to lose about 1.5lbs a week, I've been eating a lot of protein without trying to. Seems to be in the healthy foods I'm eating. Is this bad??

Thanks
Kimmy

murphydog999

No Kimmy, it's not, as long as 1, it's lean protein, not rib-eye steaks, 2, that it's not too much. How much is too much, I hear you ask. If you are eating protein all day - unless you are on an 'Atkins-type' diet (not recommended) - it is difficult to over indulge as the body decides how much it needs/uses and the rest will be disposed of in waste.

If you are doing moderate training, the aim should be around 1/1.3g per kg of body weight or around 10-15% of your daily intake. It's tricky to advise further, as type of protein, and your exercise regime type, and intensity, need to be examined.

Put it this way, with 'dieting,' and little or no exercise, muscle mass will be lost as part of the total weight loss. This isn't a good idea. The less muscle you have, the lower your resting metabolic rate, and the harder it is to loose fat.

Vicky01_2

It is not really simple to abstain from having favorite foods in order to lose weight. There are diversified methods where one need not forgo such food items; they just need to limit their consumptions. By consulting the doctor one can reduce weight without any experiencing any side effects. It is always better to have guidance in this regard.

faithcecilia

I haven't read the full thread so sorry if I repeat things.

It is actually almost impossible (I stress almost) to get your full RDA of nutrients on less than 1200cals a day, and even that takes a lot of very careful planning. If you do not get all the nutrients, aside from risking your health, you will feel hungry. Regardless of how many calories you consume, your body will make you feel hungry so you will eat more and give it a chance of getting them.

Eric_Pisch

faithcecilia wrote: »

I haven't read the full thread so sorry if I repeat things.

It is actually almost impossible (I stress almost) to get your full RDA of nutrients on less than 1200cals a day, and even that takes a lot of very careful planning. If you do not get all the nutrients, aside from risking your health, you will feel hungry. Regardless of how many calories you consume, your body will make you feel hungry so you will eat more and give it a chance of getting them.

not seen any trials that support this, could you link any as i would be interested in reading them.

there are trials / research that has proven the brain releases a full hormone when protein is eaten

i don't think there's any harm in taking a generic multivitamin just in case thou

murphydog999

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

i don't think there's any harm in taking a generic multivitamin just in case thou

Oh Eric, and I thought you knew a thing or too;)

You shouldn't be taking any supplement unless instructed by a doctor or other health professional. They are synthetic, not used in the body in the same way as 'proper' V & M's, and are not very MSE! If your diet is good, balanced, based on natural produce, and you are in reasonable health, there should be no reason at all to waste your time and money.

Ceceilia has a relevant point (although I'm not sure why it's been brought up) but again it's an individual thing, as 1200 cals to an 8 stone woman will be completely different to the needs of a 15 stone bloke.

Eric_Pisch

murphydog999 wrote: »

Oh Eric, and I thought you knew a thing or too;)

You shouldn't be taking any supplement unless instructed by a doctor or other health professional. They are synthetic, not used in the body in the same way as 'proper' V & M's, and are not very MSE! If your diet is good, balanced, based on natural produce, and you are in reasonable health, there should be no reason at all to waste your time and money.

Ceceilia has a relevant point (although I'm not sure why it's been brought up) but again it's an individual thing, as 1200 cals to an 8 stone woman will be completely different to the needs of a 15 stone bloke.

i will put my hands up on this, i have not looked at supplements at all, although i have not come across anything to say a basic multivitamin is bad, as for MSE i buy supermarket own brand for £2 a month

my interest was from the direction of why in the last 100 years we where getting obese, what changes have we made that are causing this and what bio chemistry is involved, which many other people have done research on which has now pretty much shot the low fat myth out of the water, i had got feed up constantly yoyoing and being a blob, "paleo" has pretty much cured me :cool::T

cals in is always a balancing act, although i do know they set 1200 as the min for women and 1600 for men (more if there larger than avg) on the biggest loser as they go into starvation mode below this.

nzmegs

I have recently been reading about fasting for weight loss and the EatStopEat program looks like it could be suitable for you. basically you eat within a short window each day or fast fr 24 hours a couple of times a week. the science behind it states that your body produces insulin when you eat, any insulin which is not used is laid down as fat. unfortunately may of us a re insulin resistant and our bodies do not deal well with it. we are more likely to gain weight even if we eat relatively small quantities of food regularly.

the key is to give your body a chance to use up the insulin already present and for it to start to burn your body fat for energy. if we keep on shovelling food in every 4 hours it never gets the chance to do this.Yes you need to feel hunger - but you can keep your eating time succinct and easy to keep track of. you are unlikely to eat more than your cals for the day if you olyl eat for a window of a few hours at the end of each day.

your metabolism is not affected by fasting of less than 72 hours and even if it was - studies have shown that metabolism corrects itself within a few days anyway.

Exercising when fasting is also beneficial as you simply burn body fat rather than food. look it up and see what you think.