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Major Irish Property Auction - will true value of property there be established?

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  • Niksan
    Niksan Posts: 309 Forumite
    €20,000/€30,000, Hrm, it's going to cost somewhere around that if not more to get an extension put on my house, maybe I should buy one of these and invent a teleporter instead.
  • Niksan
    Niksan Posts: 309 Forumite
    You can check out some current listings HERE.


    daft.ie ? There must be some irony there.
  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    Granted, undersupply causes it's own set of problems, but given the choice between the two evils, it's better by far than oversupply.

    Oversupply would have been great for the Irish if they hadn't been pumped full of cheap credit. I don't know for sure, but was some or all of the oversupply created from cheap credit ?

    Anyway, in my opinion, oversupply (obviously not masive oversupply) is better than undersupply.
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    edited 15 April 2011 at 10:58AM
    DervProf wrote: »
    Oversupply would have been great for the Irish if they hadn't been pumped full of cheap credit.

    Why? Supply and demand are what determines house prices in the long run. As the Irish have just discovered in no uncertain terms.

    The timing of events may have been different for Ireland without as much credit, but if they built 17% more houses than they had the people to fill them, the end result would have been the same.

    Destruction of their banks, economy, and the prospects of a generation.
    I don't know for sure, but was some or all of the oversupply created from cheap credit ?

    We were also "pumped full of cheap credit". Yet we have a massive housing shortage and had a tiny crash by comparison... so credit obviously isn't the main issue.
    Anyway, in my opinion, oversupply (obviously not massive oversupply) is better than undersupply.

    Well, Ireland's oversupply has devastated their economy. Glad we don't have that here.
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  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    Poster who wants house prices to fall prefers oversupply. Poster who wants house prices to rise prefers undersupply.

    I've heard elsewhere that the pope is catholic and animals of the family Ursidae prefer toilet facilities in woodland areas.
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
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    This was just reported on sky news. The headline summary was that "the extent of the credit crisis is so severe that some property is predicted to reach on 1/4 of it's market value at auction".

    Ermmm....no. It will reach 100% of its market value methinks.
  • Radiantsoul
    Radiantsoul Posts: 2,096 Forumite
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    Presumably there is demand in Ireland for second homes? Or holiday homes for us Brits?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Presumably there is demand in Ireland for second homes? Or holiday homes for us Brits?

    Apparently not enough to fill a third of a million houses.
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    edited 15 April 2011 at 11:43AM
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  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    Can we send them our jobless people who want social housing .... might as well pay to have them sitting there as here.
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