Using redundancy to dismiss me!!

LisaMarketing

Hello,

I have a problem at work as I believe that redundancy will be used as a way of dismissing me.

The reason for this is the sale manager was dismissed in the same way. Work has been taken away from me without any notice and a new manager is coming in soon. I have tried to resolve the matter informally last year but nothing has changed.

I have spoken to a friend who went through the same thing and they told me I do not enough yet for constructive dismissal as I was not given a job description with my contract and suggest that the redundancy route would be easier to argue at a tribunal due to my company bungling the attempt to get rid of sales manager using the same method. They also argue that, as the role has not been advertised internally this can be used as bad practice.

Another option given is that they want me to challenge anything that affects my role and to keep a record of all conversations (which I have previously). They also want me to put in a grievance so that it can be argued that everything has happened because I raised a grievance, but am not sure as the grievance is with the manager who will deal with the process. Also if the grievance is not dealt with where will that leave me?
Is the entire above true?

Is redundancy the best option to argue my case as they need to prove that it was fair? This is of course the last option if I cannot find another job, which in the current market could prove difficult. Any advice would be great.

KiKi

How long have you worked there?

LisaMarketing

I have been at the company for 2.5 years

SueC_2

Ask yourself which you would prefer to have to explain at an interview for a new job:

a/ Having been made redundant from your last role, or
b/ Having been dismissed from your last role.

That's what should be motivating you, not which presents the best tribunal opportunities.

Personally, I wouldn't really want a tribunal on my CV either. If the situation is really unresolvable, I'd negotiate as good a redundancy deal as possible and move on.

dickydonkin

SueC;42757234]Ask yourself which you would prefer to have to explain at an interview for a new job:

a/ Having been made redundant from your last role, or
b/ Having been dismissed from your last role.

Personally, I wouldn't really want a tribunal on my CV either.

Why would someone state on their CV that they took a former employer to tribunal?

Irrespective of any redundancy being unfair or otherwise, all that needs to be placed on a CV (or stated at interview) that your previous position was made redundant.

This is all hypothetical anyway as the OP has had no indication that her role is about to be made redundant but I can understand her concern nonetheless.

I was not given a job description with my contract and suggest that the redundancy route would be easier to argue at a tribunal due to my company bungling the attempt to get rid of sales manager using the same method.

But OP, your company is not making you redundant and whatever process they used to get rid of the sales manager (or tried to) is irrelevant unless it was proven to be unfair and they adopt the same process with you in any future redundancy situation (which they haven't as yet).

I wonder who is offering you 'advice' on a situation that may not even exist and I cannot see anything in the post that is worthy of submitting a grievance either.

Some of the advice you have received seems a bit iffy to me but I am sure someone will come along and hopefully offer a more positive or helpful prognosis of your situation than I have.