As The Workhouse Approaches....How To Do Everything To Avoid It, the Old Style Way

ginnyknit

Following some of the posts on here I have been spurred into action :j My mini greenhouses have a bit more room in them so I have planted lots of cabbage and lettuce. I emptied one of those multi hole trays and thought if I plant 1 pot of mixed leaves every couple of days I will have 20 little pots of salad one for each day instead of a tray full ( 4'' x 6'' ) which i am working on now. The back half of the garden is not producing much other than spuds and shallots so am concentrating my efforts at the house end and they are doing ok. Needs must as the devil drives etc....

cat_smith

ginnyknit wrote: »

if I plant 1 pot of mixed leaves every couple of days I will have 20 little pots of salad one for each day instead of a tray full ( 4'' x 6'' )

Great idea. I always end up with a glut I can't use. The problem I have is remembering to sow every couple of days. (potters off to find a multi hole tray)

gailey_2

mardatha wrote: »

What veg grows in winter ? Is hard to believe I could grow anything here in winter, but I'd like to try.
Re flour, I got a second freezer on Gumtree and its filled with flour and cooked veg. I keep the other freezer for everything else.

There was a bbc series might still be on the bbcwebsite was presentedby someonefrom gardenersworld and 4episodes 1 foreach season and did see mywinter garden and forsome reason atichokes stick in my mind plus theres a few salad and herbs that grow in winter too.

Maybe pop by the green fingers board not sure if one of those crap plastic greenhouses wouldwork also you can cut the top off 2litre pop bottles to protect from frost.

Thers no reason can have indoor herb garden we also grow chillis and cress on kitchen window.

Just hadthis funny vision of everyone trying indoor gardening.Often see on tv policeraiding cannabis in lofts wonder if could actually grow legit veg in loft?

I must admit dont always stockpile on flour as dont do as much baking as I should do aim to improve this as have breadmaker and my cakes definatly need more practice.

I did find stockpiling in freezer and store cupboard so good in snow as makes me feel less panicky.Got very jealous ofthose americans extreme couponing as they had 3years worthof toiliet roll and mini shops that put my cornershop to shame!

Mrs veg plot-hubby interveiwed someone for job he worked for everest windows and was commision only and said so hard. I dont knowhow i would copewith uncertainty as uslaly sales jobs have low salary and commision on top. Did zero hours contract in uni and that was tricky some weeks.Hope your hubby finds something better as you always work so hard and busy with your family-you a real inspiration.

I did try nestle ban inmy teens even not eating half my easter eggs one year but was very hard never realised how much big companies own one company owns so many brands they really have a monopoly over the food market as they even own delmonte and sunpat peanut butter.

Need to catch up on what I missed.

I was brave and joined slimming world as need the structure,support and someone to be strict with me.Want to lose lose 2stone and be pre baby weight and in time for baptism in august.

Alot of it is just eating really healthy so less alchol,pop,choc, biscuits and crisps and more fruit and veg.

Im struggling with foodshop since baby arrived so did another online order knowing itwould cost me slightly more than getting out and going to different places.

Its really hard to eat the things Iwould like to eat on a budget.
started online fodshop in fruit and veg section and that came to 20quid before adding meat/fish/dairy,storecupboard/cereals/drinks and crisps found itreally hard.

I did shop the deals so 3whole small chickens for £10 hopefully can stretch to least 6meals. Got some salmon as thats free on diet but sooo expensive .

Hoping wont work out too expensive and that I can train myself to eat healthier choices without breaking our £75 a week budget for 5 which includes nappies/household and toilitries.
I do think processed and junk is cheaper could go farmfoods and load upon crisps/biscuits and frozen for less than I spent.
Felt bit down at times that I worry and so many others about the the ever increasing cost of food as food is important to everyone yet a huge chunk of our money.

Advantage of doing it online iscan see how much b4paying as sometimes get sick feeling @till worrying I overspent then when get it homeworry how long will last we have hardly anything here have been on rundown so had todo larger shop than I would have done.

Anyway waffled enough fortodaybest go tidy and get dinner ready .
Really notsure what I can have.

Hope everyones doing ok.

saveabobortwo

today and thought when they they say we have a drought and rain shortage whats the worry its hardly egypt and the dessert here but Crickey walked across public footpaths through some farmland and really could nt believe how very dried up the land is even streams and ditches all dry so maybe not a bad idea to have a littleextra stock in anyway . popped into tesco and gota few basics extra to go in the cupboard cheap beans milk pasta spaghetti lasagne sheets tins food. and also noticed the some prices quite steep so i dont think its a bad idea at all now

HariboJunkie

jackieglasgow wrote: »

Nice to see a fellow supporter on the board. My husband and children have become quite the experts at checking the labels on food for Nestle. Unfortunately the main employer in the town in Switzerland some of our family live in also happen to be one and the same. It makes it very difficult to avoid their products when we visit.

You're in good company 'cos I boycott them too.

I get dried milk in Lidl if that's any help mamaninie.

Mardatha I grow winter salads, leeks, cabbage and sprouting brocolli over winter. Glad to see on the weather tonight that you have decent weather today on the east coast :j. Still howling wind and rain here .

ceridwen

r.a.i.n.b.o.w wrote: »

I was going to post the same thing - they've cottoned onto the latest trend of wearing vintage/retro clothes, plus the fact people buy the clothes then resell them.

CRAZY prices though - they wanted £20 for a t shirt that prolly only cost a couple of bob in the first place!!!

Thats one bad trend there...

It may be that they are aware of "dealers" (note to self - DO stop swearing ceridwen...) and thats the reason for this.

I think I must be a bit naive or summat - the thought wouldnt even cross my mind of buying clothes from a charity shop for any reason other than wearing them myself. My own thoughts would turn more to "I wonder if they realise how much that is worth - well...I'll sell it for the price its worth and give them the difference" (but thats not likely to happen these days - now that C.S. are universally charging what something is worth - if not more). The other thing was Charis' mention that some charities might give a 10% discount to volunteers in the shop - that thought wouldnt even cross my mind either. Back in my days of helping in the local Oxfam Shop as a teenager there was certainly no mention of anything like that (dont know what current position is for that specific charity....) and all I got out of it personally was that I spotted two items that were donated just before things like that became fashionable. I identified a coming trend - and bought them for myself (at exactly the same price that would have been charged to anyone else coming into the shop). I didnt feel awkward about it - with other people wanting things like it - because neither item became fashionable until some months later..


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On different topic - SammyKaye - hope you feel well again soon. Dont let Owen spend on another dog (or anything else either!!!!) until you've established exactly what the bills are on the house and if there's any unexpected expenses for bits and pieces of work on the house.

....and for the poster wondering - "Forever home" = the house/flat/bungalow/tent in the garden/etc that is good enough and matches ones needs enough that one intends to stay in it for life (rather than having both eyes open for ways to move on to somewhere better). What I dont know is if Sammy regards the house as the "Forever Home" or the positive thinking message is so well ingrained by now that its an "Interim Home" en route to a "Forever Home".

Is the house your Forever Home Sammy - or have you got hopes/dreams on beyond that? (recalls that house for sale you gave us details of a bit back - the one with the "ah...now I understand...garden"). (Saw a glorious house for sale in nearby accessible village today - cor...you shoulda SEEN that garden and the house was "just move into level"....but 'twas semi-detached and I'm holding out for a detached bargain house...but it was luverly apart from that....).

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Re the comments from other posters about Scouts/Guides - I have often thought that children are probably just as well served (better served?) if they go to Woodcraft Folk instead. Must admit that - from what I have seen - Woodcraft Folk would be much more to my taste in the circumstances...

Seakay

r.a.i.n.b.o.w wrote: »

I was going to post the same thing - they've cottoned onto the latest trend of wearing vintage/retro clothes, plus the fact people buy the clothes then resell them.

CRAZY prices though - they wanted £20 for a t shirt that prolly only cost a couple of bob in the first place!!!

I agree that charity shop prices are going up, and "vintage" seems to increase the price hugely, but I suppose that cs's are duty bound to get as much money for their cause as they can, and if that means that some people cannot afford to shop with them any more then that really can't be their main concern. As long as they are selling to someone ad raising funds then they are doing what they exist to do - and really with oil, fuel and food increasing in price then most charity shops will have to increase their takings if they are to continue with their commitments.

I think that many students are so in debt (or will be) that they don't economise because when it comes to it what is the difference between £15k and £20k debt when you have no money? Or to put it another way, what is the point of living parsimoniously when you are going to have enormous debts anyway?

I used to try and boycott everything that was owned by nestle but it got so complicated that now I just avoid the things that actually say Nestle on them.

mardatha

Ok will try and get meself organised to grow winter stuff. It was sunny here this afternoon but blowing a gale and the wind is quite cold. I see we've to get a north wind over the weekend - won't be surprised if it brings snow. We've had everything else !

HariboJunkie

Seakay wrote: »

I agree that charity shop prices are going up, and "vintage" seems to increase the price hugely, but I suppose that cs's are duty bound to get as much money for their cause as they can, and if that means that some people cannot afford to shop with them any more then that really can't be their main concern. As long as they are selling to someone ad raising funds then they are doing what they exist to do - and really with oil, fuel and food increasing in price then most charity shops will have to increase their takings if they are to continue with their commitments.

I agree completely. Plus I am happy to see any increase in the popularity of second hand clothes etc from an environmental point of view.

As regards people selling items bought from a charity shop, I have 2 views on that. If someone can make a living from selling on items at a higher price then I think it's fair enough as the charity shop could sell the items at that price if they researched where to do it. BUT, I would hope that, as happened locally recently, an item was found to be VERY valuable, the dealer would share the profit with the charity although having paid the price asked for it they really wouldn't be under any obligation other than a moral one.

mamaninie

Just to make it even more complicated, I also try to boycott Danone who make Aptimil artificial milk and are amongst the worst UK offenders :rotfl: The range of things I can actually buy in shops is often pretty limited, but as its mostly heavily processed products/pet food/random items which I wouldn't necessarily reach for any way, it doesn't impact on me too much. The web of companies is so twisted and tangled though I couldn't say with much confidence that Nestle goods don't ever end up in my shopping basket - but its worth a try.:o Unfortunately dd adores cheerios (bad nursery habit) The asda substitute are vile, sainsbos do one but not in our local store, so I have to stock up on waitrose own brand as they are the only cereal she will eat.

As a broader point though, it is sooooo hard to be both ethical and old style (although lots of it does go hand in hand of course), but while we are both fortunate enough to be in jobs, I feel that I would rather use our income in a way that sits well with my conscience, and go without other things as the flip-side to that. I appreciate that I'm fortunate to be in a position to make the choice though. How do other people prioritise ethics .v. cheapest price??