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The wonderous way 'social' housing is allocated

Telegraph - Housing boss in eviction row 'after young family told to leave against wishes'
They were ordered to leave in April 2008 after Seven Dials – where Mrs Vincent is a representative on the management board - claimed "succession" had occurred a year earlier.
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The new tenant was revealed to be Mrs Vincent, who sends her daughter to the £14,000 a year City of London School for Girls. It remains unclear when she moved in
Even ignoring the stench of impropriety and the unfortunates who have to leave the home... what the heck is someone who can afford to sent their children to private school doing getting subsidised housing? If you're pushing the poor out of central London (which is effectively happening with housing benefit) to reduce the deficit you need to sell off housing stock that gets freed up in expensive areas, don't give it to the grotesques who're politically connected!
"The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat, 1848.
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  • Spartacus_Mills
    Spartacus_Mills Posts: 5,545 Forumite
    Mr_Mumble wrote: »
    Telegraph - Housing boss in eviction row 'after young family told to leave against wishes'

    Even ignoring the stench of impropriety and the unfortunates who have to leave the home... what the heck is someone who can afford to sent their children to private school doing getting subsidised housing? If you're pushing the poor out of central London (which is effectively happening with housing benefit) to reduce the deficit you need to sell off housing stock that gets freed up in expensive areas, don't give it to the grotesques who're politically connected!

    This happens all the time up and down the country.

    It was particularly virulent in Nottingham.

    http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/news/Council-abuse-housing-exposed/article-616068-detail/article.html

    This is the scandal that goes unnoticed.

    http://alanadale.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/easy-guide-to-housing-fraud/
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  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    Social housing allocation is based on 'need' (no idea why the new tenant got classed as needy) but income isn't taken into account anyhow.

    I'm a bit confused about the status of the organisation - reference to both a housing cooperative (which tend to choose their own members, led by the tenants) and a housing association (social housing landlord). I thought they were distinct in terms of structure, types of tenancy, etc.
  • poppingjay
    poppingjay Posts: 73 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Maybe they're trying to rid London of those pesky poor people in time for the Olympics next year?
  • Loughton_Monkey
    Loughton_Monkey Posts: 8,913 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Hung up my suit!
    Are you suggesting sleeze and impropriety in the Town Hall?

    Surely not!

    Far worse things than this happen. I think the best 'game' at the moment is getting full pension on early retirement through ill health - and then moving to similar job in nearby council.
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Jowo wrote: »
    Social housing allocation is based on 'need' (no idea why the new tenant got classed as needy) but income isn't taken into account anyhow.

    I'm a bit confused about the status of the organisation - reference to both a housing cooperative (which tend to choose their own members, led by the tenants) and a housing association (social housing landlord). I thought they were distinct in terms of structure, types of tenancy, etc.

    http://www.frankklaver.com/sevendialshousing/about_us/about_us.htm

    it's a housing cooperative. it's not, therefore, "social" housing.
  • blueboy43
    blueboy43 Posts: 575 Forumite
    Mr_Mumble wrote: »
    Telegraph - Housing boss in eviction row 'after young family told to leave against wishes'

    Even ignoring the stench of impropriety and the unfortunates who have to leave the home... what the heck is someone who can afford to sent their children to private school doing getting subsidised housing? If you're pushing the poor out of central London (which is effectively happening with housing benefit) to reduce the deficit you need to sell off housing stock that gets freed up in expensive areas, don't give it to the grotesques who're politically connected!

    1) it appears that this is not a housing association
    2) how is it subsidised ? it is not clear
    3) how can the property be sold to reduce the deficit when it appears that its not owned by the taxpayer.

    seems like Big Society in action.
  • http://www.frankklaver.com/sevendialshousing/about_us/about_us.htm

    it's a housing cooperative. it's not, therefore, "social" housing.

    Good God!

    The Co-op.

    Bunch of socialists. Shop at Tesco!
  • societies for the benefit of the community – these trade to benefit the broader community, and the Registrar will refer to charity law. Societies for the benefit of the community are granted charitable status by the taxation authority, HM Revenue and Customs, rather than the Charity Commission (in England and Wales).

    That sounds like a subsidy from the public purse to me.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_and_provident_society
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    they appear to me to be two different issues.

    1. Should the house have been taken back after the death of the father?

    2. If so, to whom should it then have been allocated?

    The answer to (1) seems to me fairly simple - it's the standard rule for social housing, and stops social housing drifting down the generations forever.

    On the information provided, (2) seems to be "someone else".
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • harryhound
    harryhound Posts: 2,662 Forumite
    This looks like the state funded cycle of deprivation and dependency
    versus
    String pulling ...........I cannot think of a word that is not potential libel.

    Perhaps the TWO siblings with failed relationship, expecting society to finance them and their kids, together with the private educator, should come on here and explain how they need and qualify for tax subsidised accommodation in central London..
    Level playing fields and all that.

    Then what we say could be fair comment.
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