How to ask for a raise?

sho_me_da_money

I think the answer you were looking for can be summed up in one line:

"Gimme some more money Beeeeee-otches!"

Mimi_Arc_en_ciel

Little bit of info for you.

Officially, im sales admin, my role was to do admin - and sales (contracted) I do other roles, like reception and P.A but the main thing that takes up my time is organising company events. I've organised nearly 30 already this year and seen them through from the initial date planning, right through up to invoicing and payments. I'm in my late twenties, have worked in an office since leaving school. The only break in my career was when i had my child - i was going to go back to work but then got diagnoised with a tumour and because we could afford to, i left the company (on good terms) when i did decide i was well enough to go back to work i joined this company. I've had officially, 1 day off sick in two years (I wanted to put a holiday in for this but for some reason it was marked as sick rather than holiday?)

When originally employed, the company employed 4 sales Admins (throughout the globe) and we all get the same wage but there's only me that is hitting sales targets, and taking on all the other extra tasks.

I work 16 hours because the company requires it. In essence, there isnt enough work for me to do if i worked more hours (I'd be able to do more sales calls but as mentioned, they keep promising training but its never happpened) so i can't finalise the sale and am always relying on others. Currently, they dont follow my leads as quickly as i'd like.

In my office there are 1 "Sales manager" (my boss) there's another guy who does tech support and the rest are computer programmers so obviously i'm lowest paid. BUT I do suppport all three departments. I've noticed one of my colleagues is currently taking the micky - they're in another office - they keep sending me work half done and stupidly, i'm saying "oh no, do it this way" then find i'm then doing it for them in essence. for example - we're sending out sales emails. They sent me a "test" email with 2 paragrah's on it. I sent an email back saying "i would actually put this . . . . . " so they just copy and pasted what i'd sent and off they went. I know its my own flipping fault for helping them but it's just how i am, I dont like to see people struggle.

I actually live in the midlands, MOST admin jobs are £8ph so on £11ph i'm laughing BUT i dont just do admin (if that makes sense!) especially as this is a specific area, it's not as if it's a call centre (no offence!) where it's sometimes easy to pick the system up.

I was initially promised a pay review after a year but it hasnt happend. I see colleaggues going on "business"" trips but actually are taking the mick with it a bit (example - colleague is flying to frannce for "work" he flies on a monday, returns friday. He's going into work on mon and tues, but then had put holidays in for wed, thurs and fri and is seeing family. Work is paying for flights and hotels - how is that right?)

I wont go in whining saying "oh but i NEED the money" but i dont think its fair to expect more work but not more pay?

alisonmeyers

based on that info, I should think you have a solid case for asking for a pay raise (in the correct manner, ofc!), with the other suggestion that you negotiate a job title change or at least official recognition that you're not just "the admin girl" too - your bosses may refuse an above-inflation payraise because you still just "do admin" even though it doesn't reflect a substantial part of your actual duties. it sounds, from all that, that it's totally justified. and that if you stay in your current environment without raising it as an issue you're just going to get more frustrated and fed up - and they'll just end up losing a good employee anyway! Which is a crazy way to run a business!

basically it sounds like you've outgrown your current role, and you need to prompt a discussion on this, rather than just on salary (although salary will be a part of it).

aries69

Who does your duties and who do they rely on the other 24 hours of the week? How do you spread your hours over the week?

I'd ask for a follow up to the review but try not to tell them what you wish to discuss. Armed with all your points mentioned here and without coming across as though you have issues with them, you are irreplaceable or that the meeting is too much about your finances, point out that when you came to work for them they mentioned reviewing wages, child care vouchers and training, hence you were wondering if they are any further forward in these areas, point out you enjoy your job etc etc and want to progress but need to ascertain your position/the benefits now and in the future.

This will put the ball in their court, even if they need to come back to you after the meeting they have a clear outline. If they say they will get back to you ask for a timescale so you are not kept hanging on.

I was in a similar position recently and kept things to myself, I ended up resenting my employers until we got together.... problems solved..

"We work to live - not live to work"..... but I do the extra mile

Good luck

[Deleted User]

You could always learn C++ and help out the programmers..

Mimi_Arc_en_ciel

Before I worked there my manager did the things i do now - But he couldnt do everything and his work so hence my job came about.

At the moment things get left for me. Managing my time was one thing my manager did mention at the review. He's saying i do everything "there and now" and he wants me to pace myself. I hae no set number of sales calls to make - but he'd like me to make more? So far I've done 100 calls a month minimum. The other sales admin in another office has made 3 calls this YEAR - THREE!!! :eek:

I have a week and a half until boss is back so will get a little speech prepared