HELP! I've been told to sign a new contract or be sacked! Big changes to pay etc

KiKi

getmore4less wrote: »

What's the basic wage currently.

£150 deduction with no context is a bit meaningless.

I appreciate the context is meaningless, but even if the OP's wage is £6000 a month, that's a 10% reduction, I think that's significant. If basic wage (bearing in mind he's paid commission) was £35K, that's £3000 a month, which means a 20% reduction. It's unlikely that in a sales role a basic wage would be much more than that.

KiKi

getmore4less

KiKi wrote: »

I appreciate the context is meaningless, but even if the OP's wage is £6000 a month, that's a 10% reduction, I think that's significant. If basic wage (bearing in mind he's paid commission) was £35K, that's £3000 a month, which means a 20% reduction. It's unlikely that in a sales role a basic wage would be much more than that.

KiKi

The context is important because failing to make a weekly target is significant so there are potentialy workarounds.

if this takes them below NMW then the hit is limited by law

So you carry over the leads to following week to get a good target commission and takes the hit on a bad week

You need a total renumeration picture to asses the impact over longer periods

If basic is low this is an attempt to get around NMW by agreed deduction from wages.

Thats my guess, who pays a lot for people to go round knocking on doors.

Now this may be a way to reduce fitters wages if they double up as door knockers which is a sign the company is struggling, but if the door to door are just that then they are probably not converting enough and need to cut costs.

carlcumbria

getmore4less wrote: »

What's the basic wage currently.

£150 deduction with no context is a bit meaningless.

Hi, we currently get a basic of £250 which would drop to only £100 if we didn't get their new targets. Right now we need to work around 4 hours per day to get the leads they've been happy with us getting so far, however to achieve the new target we'd simply have to put more hours in. But, even on 4 hours per day at a basic of £100 means we'd be only on £5 per hour which is below NMW!

anamenottaken

Of course, for NMW calculations, you work out your hourly pay by adding basic and commission together.

Emmylou_2

Back in the dim and distant mists of time when I was knocking for windows (95ish), we were paid £25 per shift basic, then £20 per dem (getting the salesman in) and %age commission on sales (level of which depended on what it was). But, officially, we were all self-employed and were responsible for our own tax and NI etc. Are you sure you're employed, as opposed to being self-employed?

KiKi

Emmylou wrote: »

But, officially, we were all self-employed and were responsible for our own tax and NI etc. Are you sure you're employed, as opposed to being self-employed?

The OP says that the company produce payslips as well as paying tax and NI, so there's no indication he's self-employed.

KiKi