We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Stay on lifetime tracker of move to 5 year fix?

I have a lifetime tracker mortgage with First Direct (0.79% above base) but can't decide whether to move to their 5 year fix at 3.89%.

I've already arranged the 5 year fix in January and have until July to start it.

The mortgage is for £60K and I plan to pay it within 8 years.

I realise it depends on what the interest rates will be doing in the future, but would be interested in what others would do.

I'm tempted to stay on the tracker as it's a lifetime, so should be a reasonable rate for the full 8 years.

Comments

  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    As your term is only 8 years and the tracker is a very good rate of 0.79% above base rate I would stick with the tracker and try to build up savings in cash ISA,s that way if rates do rise you can pay a lump sum off
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    Why not consider the numbers.

    £60k over 8 years with 5y fix @ 3.89% £728.29pm

    With the tracker starts at 1.29% £658.14pm

    So while rates are low you are saving upto £60pm, pay/save that and the mortgage term could become 7y 2.5m

    the longer base stays below 2.5 the higher it has to go to be worse off.



    If you really want to be sure of a not being hit by any rises aim for 5 years on the fix £1100pm
  • Best case
    If base rates stay at 0.5% for 5 years you will save £70 per month (£4,200 over 5 years). After 5 years you will owe £1,480 less by staying oin the tracker. Total saved = £5,680. You could overpay by £70 per month and knock over 9 months off your mortgage.

    Worst case
    It is hard to predict what base rates will do. They could rise rapidly in the very near term. I don't think that they will but what I think is not important. What do you think? Are you prepared to put your money where your mouth is - so to speak?

    I would not overpay. Instead, I would save £70 per month in first direct's regular saver at 8%. When it matures in a year's time, I'd stick it in an ISA (well, I wouldn't but you could - I'd lend it at Zopa). In year 2, start another regular saver and repeat. If rates rise, it may be better to stop saving and to start overpaying.

    Can you borrow more at 1.29%? If so, take it and save that too.

    GG
    There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those that don't.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    Another point I keep forgetting.

    When rates go up so will savings rates, they may lag the mortgage rates a bit BUT.

    Savings curently at base + 2%+
    Mortgage currently at base + 0.79%

    that is a big enough window to probably make savings a longer term option(DIY offsetting).

    Currently the £1 saved is worth about £2 of mortgage if you find good rates/ISA
  • pknottm
    pknottm Posts: 236 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture
    Many thanks for the replies.

    I was thinking it would be best to stay on the tracker too, as the base rates have to rise to 3.1% within a couple of years before I would start to lose out, which could happen.

    At least if I stay on the tracker, I should be on a decent rate after 5 years, whereas the fixed rate would revert to SVR.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.5K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.4K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604.2K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.5K Life & Family
  • 261.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.