18 years of hell

tottyman

I am writing to wish all NRP and PWC the very best in dealing with the CSA /CMEC. I have had the pleasure of being one of there valued customers for the last eighteen years . Oh what a joy and a delight they have been , In the early days ( 1993 I think it was acceptable for them to lose things but in the later years be on your guard people )

I have paid my maintence without fail at the assessed amounts monthly via a deduction of earnings order . In 1993 they received three completed assessment forms but guess what i got an interim order on the basis that i didnt provide all the information . This information was in relation to my girlfriend and her finances . Please note that there is no legal obligation to provide this information to the CSA . Anyway i subsequently continued to pay and my payments continued despite my complaints about IMA . In 1997 the agency requested a review , I completed the forms and submitted them within two days I continued to pay maintenance .

You may think where is this leading ? well 26 months after the request for review and submission of the completed forms the CSA finally completed the review ( 1999 ). they increased my maintenance and back dated it 26 months from when they received it ( maintenance still being paid in this 26 month period ). I appealed to them asked for an explanation and was told ( we can do what we want we are accountable to nobody ) this resulted in arrears being accrued of £6000 due to there administrative incompetance . I continued to pay and guess what i have now been summonsed to court for a liability order and yes you guesssed right £6000 just prior to my sons 19th birthday when i thought id wake up from this hell . The Review . I have appealed to a tribunal ? no luck as out of time ? mP ? useless he looked out of a window and said " what do you want me to do about it " so useless there . Im now seeking judicial review and also taking court action against the CSA . Why should i pay for there errors. oh incidently last month i received a breakdown of my account and a full assessment was carried out prior to the interim assessment. I am issuing a summons to the Rt Hon Ian Duncan Smith to explain to a judge his organisations failings and why i should be punished for there incompetance . Im sure there are many who have been put in the same situation both PWC and NRP recentlt as CMEC are on a roll to recover any arrears and so called arrears in two years . This will make them look good in parliament . A sham ??????? and i for one am not sitting back and taking it !!!!!!.

kelloggs36

You complained about them imposing an IMA when your girlfriend wouldn't provide her details??

kelloggs36

tottyman wrote: »

I am writing to wish all NRP and PWC the very best in dealing with the CSA /CMEC. I have had the pleasure of being one of there valued customers for the last eighteen years . Oh what a joy and a delight they have been , In the early days ( 1993 I think it was acceptable for them to lose things but in the later years be on your guard people )

I have paid my maintence without fail at the assessed amounts monthly via a deduction of earnings order . In 1993 they received three completed assessment forms but guess what i got an interim order on the basis that i didnt provide all the information . This information was in relation to my girlfriend and her finances . Please note that there is no legal obligation to provide this information to the CSA . Anyway i subsequently continued to pay and my payments continued despite my complaints about IMA . In 1997 the agency requested a review , I completed the forms and submitted them within two days I continued to pay maintenance .

You may think where is this leading ? well 26 months after the request for review and submission of the completed forms the CSA finally completed the review ( 1999 ). they increased my maintenance and back dated it 26 months from when they received it ( maintenance still being paid in this 26 month period ). I appealed to them asked for an explanation and was told ( we can do what we want we are accountable to nobody ) I doubt this is what they said, but actually they are correct. ?The effective date was sent in 1999 and yes, it is outrageous that it took so long, but legally they have applied the rules correctlythis resulted in arrears being accrued of £6000 due to there administrative incompetance . this is what you complain about and ask for a compensatory payment - but you won't get much, just a small amount and an apologyI continued to pay and guess what i have now been summonsed to court for a liability order and yes you guesssed right £6000 just prior to my sons 19th birthday when i thought id wake up from this hell . The Review . I have appealed to a tribunal ? no luck as out of time ? mP ? useless he looked out of a window and said " what do you want me to do about it " so useless there . Im now seeking judicial review and also taking court action against the CSA . Why should i pay for there errors. because it was written in legislation that they had to set the effective dates as they did.oh incidently last month i received a breakdown of my account and a full assessment was carried out prior to the interim assessment. the IMA may have been a full assessment - if you don't provide your partner's detials they HAVE to impose an IMA category B as they are unable to do a complete full assessment - they can't do this because they can't calculate the protected income as they don't know the household income figures - thus you pay the IMA figure. You can get it converted if you provide the required details but you will probably find it wouldn't make much (if any) difference.I am issuing a summons to the Rt Hon Ian Duncan Smith to explain to a judge his organisations failings and why i should be punished for there incompetance . Im sure there are many who have been put in the same situation both PWC and NRP recentlt as CMEC are on a roll to recover any arrears and so called arrears in two years . This will make them look good in parliament . A sham ??????? and i for one am not sitting back and taking it !!!!!!.

You need to understand how it all works before you do this - you have shown that you do not fully understand all the regulations and legislation, so you need to read it thoroughly and highight where they have acted unlawfully.

tottyman

yep complained , first they stated they couldnt find the forms , then they appeared and yes they said because it was incomplete ( girlfriends finances they were imposing an IMA ). please remember in 1993 the CSA were in disarray and every officer you dealt with told you something different . recentlly a named person in CMEC said she would convert the IMA to a full assessment and adjust my records , this is documented with the CAB on three letters , then last week they say they are not going to do this as legislation before 1995 says they cant ( maybe because a huge volume of IMA,s were issued in the early days ) I think this is well documented and thats why the change in legislation in 1995. om IMA,s .

kelloggs36

Ok so they can't convert, however, you can't argue about them imposing it in the first place as it was correct for them to do.

tottyman

thanks for that , Im querying the ima because they put it in place because my girlfriend wouldnt provide details of her income to the CSA . If i would have provided it to them it would of being against her person, . also you may wish to know she was my girlfriend , not partner , wife not even cohabitating at that time . No legal obligation to provide the csa with her details . ive come here for help , and advice . im not a legal buff , im a hardworking bloke who has been put before a court because of the CSA,s inability and total incompetance . demonstrated by taking 26 months to do a review . The legislation is not fit for purpose just like the CSA / CMEC

kelloggs36

tottyman wrote: »

thanks for that , Im querying the ima because they put it in place because my girlfriend wouldnt provide details of her income to the CSA . If i would have provided it to them it would of being against her person, . also you may wish to know she was my girlfriend , not partner , wife not even cohabitating at that time . No legal obligation to provide the csa with her details . ive come here for help , and advice . im not a legal buff , im a hardworking bloke who has been put before a court because of the CSA,s inability and total incompetance . demonstrated by taking 26 months to do a review . The legislation is not fit for purpose just like the CSA / CMEC

You need to check what you put on the form - it doesn't matter if you weren't married or whatever, but if you weren't living together then her details were irrelevant and so an IMA should not have been imposed - if you had put her on the form as your partner, then they had no option but to impose the IMA because they could not calculate the full assessment as they didn't have her details - it wasn't a punitive assessment, but a default one as they didn't have all the details. Whilst she was under no legal obligation to provide the details, the legal position of the CSA was that they had to impose the cat B IMA. The key issue is what you put on the MEF in the first place about your girlfriend's home.