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whats a 'bear' and a 'bull'?
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My own take on this is quite simple. The terms originate from the Stock Market, but generally a Bull is someone who believes prices will rise. A bear believes they will fall.
As has been pointed out, the majority of rubbish that gets posted here in the context that substitutes "wants" for the word "believes".
Hence I think there are quite a few mixed up souls on this forum. Those who in their very private moments believe prices are holding and indeed going up, but desperately want them to go down - motivated by (a) wanting to buy but can't afford, or (b) used to own, but couldn't afford, and so it's 'sour grapes' wanting everyone else to get into negative equity...
And there's the reverse, of course. As a home owner, I definitely want them to go up. But I do not consider myself bullish at the moment, and neither am I bearish, because I don't think they'll go down much (at least in the south east). So my belief is that they will stay roughly 'on hold' for a year or two before going up.
Someone who is neither a bull nor a bear, is called a "Blair" - a rather nasty animal with which I am ashamed to be associated.
Finally, I would propose to use the term "Buzzard" for a lot of the posters around here. This is defined as a scavenger animal with tiny brains who hasn't got the first clue about a housing market and therefore flies around in ever decreasing circles getting particularly confused when one index quotes +0.2%, and -0.3% the next, whereas the Estate Agents are saying that they dropped 0.5% and are now going up 4%.... They post all their half-4rsed ramblings on here.
My passionate plea to these buzzards is to "get the flock out of here".0 -
Theres bull and bear as stock market terms.
Then theres Bull and Bear in the context of this site, and others.
Bulls are those who in the run up to 2007 said that house prices would never fall. And who, following a considerable crash in prices, now say the same about stage 2.
Remarkably their arguments have not changed. Which when you think about it, is a bit strange.
Bears are those who in the run up to 2007 considered some form of correction inevitable. Although this has been proven to be absolutely correct, they are of course completely wrong, because house prices are still more expensive than they were in 1874 or some such. Or because one nutter on one website said they expected prices to fall 99.5%.0 -
i have been called a bull on this forum for stating that i didn't think prices would fall more than 20%
my own take on what it means on mse
bear - believe house prices will fall 70%+
bull - believe anything else0 -
I'm often accused of being a Bull on here.
I'm often accused of being a Bear on here.
It usually depends on which of the one eyed vested interests I have the temerity to not agree 100% with.
And your often accused of being a bore,:rotfl:
Bulls and Bears more rubbish usually heard on most USA based financial reports.0 -
i have been called a bull on this forum for stating that i didn't think prices would fall more than 20%
my own take on what it means on mse
bear - believe house prices will fall 70%+
bull - believe anything else
yawn.zzzzzzzzOr because one nutter on one website said they expected prices to fall 99.5%.0 -
Bullillgetthere wrote: »sorry to be thick, but i read a lot about bears and bulls and other.
can someone define for me?
thanks muchly.:beer:
Bear
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