Nuclear power

ninky_2

irok20002 wrote: »

If your worried about the amount of radiation that will reach them then you better go and make sure you have a non radioactive fire alarm in your house and never ever eat a brazil nut in your life.

radiation is not the same as radio isotopes. radiation disperses relatively quickly. isotopes have a massive half life and accumulate in the food chain.

irok20002

Your correct its only a problem if the radioactive isotopes get inside you, and I'm quite sure that because of the small releases and large distance traveled, the particles that reach LA will be pretty well dispersed and in no great concentrations. Certainly not enough to accumulate in the food chain.

ninky_2

just a thought....the eu and other countries are proposing to carry out safety tests of nuclear plants in the wake of fukushima.

wasn't the chernobyl disaster the result of a safety test (gone wrong)?

safety tests seem to involve scrams which seem to be a high risk point.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

A._Badger wrote: »

Badger has been out earning a living. You might want to give it a try.

Off course. I'll kick your 'assssssss' any day you like (American spelling and all).

A quick check on the reliable scientifically credible sites since I got back home (ie not the BBC or the Guardian) shows that, yes, the damage is bad and may be getting worse.

However, unless you have better sources of information (and, no, Ninky doesn't count) there has been no life-threatening release of radiation into the local area, or beyond. Some reactor workers may have received harmful doses of radiation - but that isn't clear.

Here are a couple of questions to help you sleep. How many people do you think are known to have died as a consequence of the Chernobyl incident?

And how many died in road accidents in the UK last year?

Do try to get a sense of proportion.

:rotfl:


Nice insults.

Shame it doesn't take away the fact that if you now look back at all your posts there is a definite odour of bull about them all.

I get the feeling you are a member of the Japanese Cabinet...

Things are following a natural reaction. Things haven't got worse. They are just on course.

irok20002

ninky wrote: »

just a thought....the eu and other countries are proposing to carry out safety tests of nuclear plants in the wake of fukushima.

wasn't the chernobyl disaster the result of a safety test (gone wrong)?

safety tests seem to involve scrams which seem to be a high risk point.

Chernobyl was a horrifically badly designed plant that the wikipedia page will tell you all about if your interested. The design at the time didnt follow standard expected safety procedures and standards of the time.
Also there was large political influences and just general incompetence all round. Read about it on wikipedia, it was an absolute mess.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

The Guardian newspaper reports on the heavy toll the earthquake has had on Japan's ageing population. In an article, it states: "Almost a quarter of Japan's population are 65 or over, and hypothermia, dehydration and respiratory diseases are taking hold among the elderly in shelters, many of whom lost their medication when the wave struck, according to Eric Ouannes, general director of Doctors Without Borders' Japan affiliate

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John_Pierpoint

ninky wrote: »

where do you get that fact from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents#List_of_accidents_at_nuclear_power_plants



worldwide there have been 99 accidents at nuclear power plants from 1952 to 2009 (defined as incidents that either resulted in the loss of human life or more than US$50,000 of property damage, the amount the US federal government uses to define major energy accidents that must be reported), totaling US$20.5 billion in property damages.Fifty-seven accidents have occurred since the Chernobyl disaster, and almost two-thirds (56 out of 99) of all nuclear-related accidents have occurred in the USA.


it's also harder to assess the number of deaths caused by these accidents as they frequently manifest long after the event and are in the general population not just workers who are easier to track.

The examples and perspective in this article deal primarily with the United States and do not represent a worldwide view of the subject. Please improve this article and discuss the issue on the talk page. (December 2010)

These examples of nasty nuclear accidents seem more dependent on the level of democratic control of the government, than the size of the accident.
There is a fairly large area of Russia, crossed by roads with notices forbidding stopping and getting out of your car. It is the area where the Russians caught up with USA and Britain in their ability to make atomic bombs. I wonder if Stalin even bothered to keep records of what happened to those who worked on that project, let alone the peasants who used to live locally.

Early nuclear reactors were bomb factories, the electricity was mainly a public relations exercise - A bit like going into space on the nose of an intercontinental ballistic missile.

We have hardly debated the joys of having to keep the waste under lock and key for generations - to avoid it falling into the hands of terrorists. Imagine a 9/11 twin towers or a 7/7 London double decker spiced up with a few radio active isotopes.

We know Gaddafi wanted a bomb - I wonder if his meddling played its part in Pakistan's catch up with India in their arms race.

Finally, will the human race manage to breed out the damage done by extra radiation to their DNA - a whole generation learned that having Hiroshima or Nagasaki on their birth certificate did not do a lot for their marriage prospects..

diable

Ditch nuclear energy and let every house hold pay their way be it £1k or £5k per year and let us return to the survival of the fittest.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Japan upgrades emergency to 5.....................

ninky_2

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Japan upgrades emergency to 5.....................

behind others who upgraded it to a 6 a few days ago. i wonder who has the final say. iaea? (headed by a japanese scientist).