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  • thenudeone
    thenudeone Posts: 4,462 Forumite
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    OllyB wrote: »
    I've just had a Solartricity sales visit, and they quoted £19.5K for just under 4KWs worth of Kyocera panels
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
    Thats only about 50% above the going rate
    We need the earth for food, water, and shelter.
    The earth needs us for nothing.
    The earth does not belong to us.
    We belong to the Earth
  • tlck9
    tlck9 Posts: 320 Forumite
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    I have been quoted £7995 inc vat for a 3kw system, based upon

    My neighbour has chosen this company to carry it out and I though they seemed cheap, any comments please



    All systems have the following components

    Schuco polycrystalline 215MPE 05 EU modules

    Schuco flat rail mounting system

    SMA inverter/s

    4mm DC cables

    Ofgem approved generation meter

    Independent consumer unit where required

    1.29 kWh system fully fitted (6 modules) 9m2 £4995.00 inclusive VAT

    1.72 kWh system fully fitted (8 modules) 12m2 £5995.00 inclusive VAT

    2.15 kWh system fully fitted (10 modules) 15m2 £6995.00 inclusive VAT

    3.00 kWh system fully fitted (14 modules) 21m2 £7995.00 inclusive VAT

    3.78 kWh system fully fitted (18 modules) 27m2 £9995.00 inclusive VAT
  • kfsimpson
    kfsimpson Posts: 95 Forumite
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    nealh wrote: »
    Yes tax free (unless they change their mind anytime over the next 25 years!). Remember Sanyo offer a 'step' guarantee, not graded.

    All the newspapers and radio progs do warn that FITs might be changed by future govts, so presumably tax position is the same. I assume that we're all doing fingers crossed that neither will change. What do other think to the quote I received? Not sure what 'step' means as opposed to 'graded'. Can you please clarify? Thanks.
  • jerryd wrote: »
    I have just ordered a 3.92 kWp system using Sharp Panels and Fronius inverter for under £12500. That's almost the largest size you can have and still get the best FIT. Installers offering 20% off or £1000 off if you order today are salesman and are usually selling something that is way over priced. I expect to get Fit payments of £1600 pa, £50 for units returned to the grid and save £150 per year on units used. Total C £1800 all tax free. :rotfl:

    You really should let us know who you bought this from, since it's a very good deal.
    Karl Craig-West
    Blogger, Speaker, Business Activist, and I've also been known to build websites here and there...
  • I'd like to add to this discussion since I've just stopped working for a company called Hothouse energy/roof company. I was engaged as a sales presenter, effectively visiting homes selling solar systems (very much like a double glazing salesman).

    High pressure selling tactics are becoming very common in this industry and bad reputations are quickly being forged. We were encouraged to give a better price if clients bought on the day (after a comprehensive 90 minute presentation). In many cases the discount wasn't needed because the product sells itself.

    Hothouse are probably the most expensive company out there. Their 2KWp system (with 8 Sanyo hybrid panels) was £13,500 with discount and 4KWp (16 panels) was £24,000 with discount.

    But the thing that made me uncomfortable is that we were trained to give inflated FiT estimates and thus an unrealistic return. Sadly this is all too common in this industry.

    According to Standard Assessment Procedure calcs a 2KWp system could theoretically return as much as £1,600 a year in FiT under perfect conditions (south facing, 30 degree pitch, no shading) but most installations will get less than a thousand.

    So, I would advise anyone considering a solar PV system to shop around. And even then don't accept the first price you're offered (since margins on these systems are quite high).
    Karl Craig-West
    Blogger, Speaker, Business Activist, and I've also been known to build websites here and there...
  • keith_r59
    keith_r59 Posts: 255 Forumite
    ecofreaks wrote: »
    M.E.P Electrical are doing the best prices & also have a good reputation look them up on the web.

    3.995 for 10k inc VAT

    10 years warranty on panels & inverters
    25 year performance warranty on panel

    Trina Solar & power one inverter

    3.9Kw

    Sharp or Samsung wirth SMA inverter 4000TL with sunnybeam

    11,600 inc Vat


    3.8Kw

    Sanyo 240 HIT & SMA inverter 4000tl

    13,300 inc vat


    best deals in uk at moment :A

    Recent quotes given:money:

    You aren't the first person, and you probably won't be the last, who has "advertised" this particular company on here.

    A cynical person would think you are connected to them in some way. ;)
  • That's the problem, who to trust as a lot sound like double glazing salesmen. AllI want to start with from firms is the cost of a 4kw and 10kw system together with what solar panels they use and inverter but they want to sent someone to talk to my wife and myself, sound like time share! Anyone know How I can get the information?
    Alfie
  • zeupater
    zeupater Posts: 5,390 Forumite
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    edited 13 August 2011 at 6:22PM
    karlcw68 wrote: »
    I'd like to add to this discussion since I've just stopped working for a company called Hothouse energy/roof company. I was engaged as a sales presenter, effectively visiting homes selling solar systems (very much like a double glazing salesman).

    High pressure selling tactics are becoming very common in this industry and bad reputations are quickly being forged. We were encouraged to give a better price if clients bought on the day (after a comprehensive 90 minute presentation). In many cases the discount wasn't needed because the product sells itself.

    Hothouse are probably the most expensive company out there. Their 2KWp system (with 8 Sanyo hybrid panels) was £13,500 with discount and 4KWp (16 panels) was £24,000 with discount.

    But the thing that made me uncomfortable is that we were trained to give inflated FiT estimates and thus an unrealistic return. Sadly this is all too common in this industry.

    According to Standard Assessment Procedure calcs a 2KWp system could theoretically return as much as £1,600 a year in FiT under perfect conditions (south facing, 30 degree pitch, no shading) but most installations will get less than a thousand.

    So, I would advise anyone considering a solar PV system to shop around. And even then don't accept the first price you're offered (since margins on these systems are quite high).
    Hi

    According to the BRE SAP calculation it's far less than that .......
    The procedure for PV is as follows.
    1) Establish the installed peak power of the PV unit (kWp).
    2) The electricity produced by the PV module in kWh/year is

    0.8
    ´ kWp ´ S ´ ZPV (M1)
    where S is the annual solar radiation from Table H2 (depending on orientation and pitch),
    and ZPV is the overshading factor from Table H4.
    http://www.bre.co.uk/filelibrary/SAP/2009/SAP-2009_9-90.pdf
    .... so an unshaded South facing 30 degree roof mounted array of 2.0kWp would achieve a SAP calculated 1716.8kWh/year (0.8x2.0x1073x1.0) multiplied by the <4kWp retrofit FiT rate of 43.3p/kWh gives a SAP calculated FiT income of £743.37/year, not £1600.

    HTH
    Z
    "We are what we repeatedly do, excellence then is not an act, but a habit. " ...... Aristotle
    B)
  • Alfie1939 wrote: »
    That's the problem, who to trust as a lot sound like double glazing salesmen. AllI want to start with from firms is the cost of a 4kw and 10kw system together with what solar panels they use and inverter but they want to sent someone to talk to my wife and myself, sound like time share! Anyone know How I can get the information?
    Alfie


    Most decent firms can you give you an informal estimate over the phone once they have asked a few critical questions. If they badger you to send someone round then tye are more than likely to be sales people with inflated prices.

    I'd suggest the following if you're able:

    Measure the width of the roof you want your solar on
    Measure the roof from the ridge to the gutter. If you can't do this get into the loft measure the floor to the peak and half of the width of the building and then Google right angle calculator and work out both the angle and pitch of the roof.
    Use a compass or Google Earth to see what your orientation is
    Check to see if there's any shading that might fall on the panels.

    Once you've got that information look up your local installers through the MCS site and ring them for prices. They will have enough information there to give you a ball park figure.

    From there you can guage things like response times, attitude, panel options, warranties without having any pressure from a sales person.

    Narrow it down to a couple of installers with the right price and panel configuration for you, invite them round and chose from them.

    Hope that helps.
    Target of wind & watertight by Sept 2011 :D
  • tony6403
    tony6403 Posts: 1,257 Forumite
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    Has anyone any information about the group schemes brought to my attention in a recent article in The Times newspaper. The article referred to companies getting together around 30 customers in a fairly large area and offering an economy of scale . An expected price of £6.4k for a 2.4kw installation was given.
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