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2 Endowments, Keep or Sell

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Hi,
I have 2 endowments & wonder should I keep sell or surrender them?

1st policy with Pheonix Life(formally Royal Life) 25yr With profits endowment

Target Amount £25,000
Basic sum assured £8,250
Bonus to date £2163.32
Surrender value Nov 2006 £5701.00
Monthly Premium £37.00
Maturity date 02 Aug 2018
Maturity Projections 3.75% £13,200 (-£11,800)
4.5% £14,100(- £10,900)
5.25% £15,200(-£9,800)

2nd Policy Friends Provident 25yr With profits endowment.

Target Amount £16,000
Basic sum assured £5552.00
Bonus to date £2668.10
Surrender Value Nov 2005 £5511.54
Monthly premium £21.96
Maturity date 31 Dec 2013
Maturity projections 4% £8650(-£7,350)
5.5% £9680 (-£6,320)
8% £11,600( -£4,400)

Could anyone give me some advice as what to do with these policys please.

Thanks
Moneysaver

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  • Finishrich
    Finishrich Posts: 1,038 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Combo Breaker PPI Party Pooper
    Another option might be worth finding out what they could be worth it you make them "paid up" - Keep them running the full term but don't pay anymore money into them.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,754 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Investigating the paid up option should always take place. Many endowments have surrender penalties only up to a certain point in the policy life. i.e. year 10 or 15. If you suffer a £3000 penalty in year 8 but no penalty in year 10, then holding out to that point before surrendering makes financial sense. It all comes down to balancing what you are going to lose against what you are going to make on the alternatives.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • EdInvestor
    EdInvestor Posts: 15,749 Forumite
    moneysaver wrote:
    Hi,
    I have 2 endowments & wonder should I keep sell or surrender them?

    1st policy with Pheonix Life(formally Royal Life) 25yr With profits endowment
    Maturity Projections 3.75% £13,200 (-£11,800)
    4.5% £14,100(- £10,900)
    5.25% £15,200(-£9,800)

    If you cashed in this policy and placed the money on deposit@ 4% also paying in the premiums to maturity, you should up with 15,943.

    If you used to the money to pay off a mortgage with a 5% interest rate, you would get a return of 17,495 by the end.

    Boith these figures are higher than what you will get from your Phoenix policy which is now invsted in a zombie fund :( So I would surrender it pronto.Replace the life cover first if you need to.

    Please update the surrender value of the FP endowment for a view.
    Trying to keep it simple...;)
  • Thanks for the reply's
    These policies are not attached to any mortgage at this time but were in the past. I will try & get a surrender value for the FP policy & post asap.


    Moneysaver
  • Just spoke to FP the surrender value today is £6202.00.


    Thanks
    Moneysaver
  • EdInvestor
    EdInvestor Posts: 15,749 Forumite
    moneysaver wrote:
    Maturity projections
    4% £8650(-£7,350)
    5.5% £9680 (-£6,320)
    8% £11,600( -£4,400)


    With the FP policy oif you surrendered an placed the money on deposit @4% also paying in the premiums to maturiyt you should end up with 10,291.If you used the money to pay off the mortgage the return would be 10,934.

    There's no real prospect o the FP fund making more than 5% annualised return as it has a large chunk invested in bonds.

    So I think you'd do better to surrender, replacing the life cover first if you need to do so.
    Trying to keep it simple...;)
  • EdInvestor wrote:
    There's no real prospect o the FP fund making more than 5% annualised return as it has a large chunk invested in bonds.


    Latest figures on FPs website are 44% equities, 9% property, 47% Fixed interest and other.

    Is that the sort of mix you are referring to?
  • Supernova wrote:
    Latest figures on FPs website are 44% equities, 9% property, 47% Fixed interest and other.

    Is that the sort of mix you are referring to?
    Just waiting on the reply from this post. I will then make up my mind on
    wether to surrender both policies.


    Thanks
    Moneysaver
  • You could of course SELL the policies.
    Check out apmm.org
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