The CSA....again?

krashovr10ad

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May i ask who you think benefits from your money then? And who you think should provide for your child?

I'm not against paying for my child - but the system is broken (otherwise they wouldn't be setting up a 3rd CSA assessment system)

If I was out of work - my ex-partner would still get the same level of benefits etc. They wouldn't stop the £342 that I currently pay from the benefits she receives would they..??

If the CSA really planned to help then the money that I contribute should go in addition to the benefits - that way it would be helping my child more..???

After all - if my ex-partner was in receipt of WTC she would get all that I pay (isn't that right..??) - so where's the logic in that...

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Rebekka_2

krashovr10ad wrote:

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I'm not against paying for my child - but the system is broken (otherwise they wouldn't be setting up a 3rd CSA assessment system)

If I was out of work - my ex-partner would still get the same level of benefits etc. They wouldn't stop the £342 that I currently pay from the benefits she receives would they..??

If the CSA really planned to help then the money that I contribute should go in addition to the benefits - that way it would be helping my child more..???

After all - if my ex-partner was in receipt of WTC she would get all that I pay (isn't that right..??) - so where's the logic in that...

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Yes the system maybe broken, but at the moment its the one we have

Whilst your child is under 16 you both as parents have to provide, and it seems fair that the non-resident parent should provide the income stated for this, if you ex was working then she would keep this because the sate (as in income support) would not be expected to keep it when they are not paying them to live, therefore she would be entitled to keep it, if she was entitled to keep it on top of her income support that would be another argument about making single mums better off then NRP so either way doesnt seem right to you, and the logic is in that the state keeps your child and your maintenance goes back into the system, the same system that is helping and supporting your child

samjocky

Talking of CSA - does anyone know when the Govt is publishing their White Paper based on the recommendations back in the summer? Last forecast was "Autumn".... hmmmmm

zoezoe_3

krashovr10ad wrote:

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If the CSA really planned to help then the money that I contribute should go in addition to the benefits - that way it would be helping my child more..???


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Why on earth should your child get the money you provide AND the money from the state ??? Why should your child be better off than one not from a broken home ?

You need to understand the system

1) The government set in place the minimum amount of money needed for a family unit
2) The government will request that the parents (absent and not absent) pay this fugure. The CSA will claim it from the absent parent
3) If the parents cant pay the state will do so.

All the money claimed by the CSA will go to the family, any extra they need is then claimed in the form of benefits.

Zoe

krashovr10ad

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The government set in place the minimum amount of money needed for a family unit

Why should I work 6 days a week for the mimimum amount..? If I wanted that I'd stop working...

They also set up 2 CSA maintenance assessment systems - one of which takes £342 and the other would take £134...

Why should your child be better off than one not from a broken home ?

Before I moved in my girlfriend (and her daughter) was legally entitled to housing benefit, council tax reflief, WTC and the like - she worked 16 hours and was on nearly the equivalent of £17k...

Her and her daughter were much better off being a broken home - but maybe that's the system at fault there too..???

Now between us we're on £17k between us after paying the CSA - and I earn £16K...

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Rebekka_2

So again who do you expect to support your child, you seem happy to support someone elses

sured

so i am right in thinking you want to support your girlfriends daughter but you are prepared to let the state support your own child.

sured

or, do you want to support your child and then let the state support you, which is what it would be doing if your girlfriend remained on benefit whilst you live with her, please excuse my confusion.

krashovr10ad

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I don't see why my ex-partner shouldn't get the money if she's on benefits - it is meant for my son after all & not his mother (don't complain about that statement)...

After all when my ex-partner got married to a man who earnt £25k the CSA were still happy to take £74 a week from me and if my ex-partners was working a few hours and claiming WTC she would get the money in addition to anything else - what makes benefits a special case..?

As mentioned above there are currently 2 CSA maintenance assessment systems - I'm on the old system which takes £342 and the other would take £134. I know for a fact that her ex-husband will be paying less than £342 for 2 children - according to the calculator it'd be £277 a month if he was earning £400 a week (after tax)...

I'd even meet halfway - £109 a month would make a very big difference. I'd still be paying £243 which is a lot more than some..

We'll see what the tribunal has to say next week (not that I'm expecting contributions to change)...

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scotlass99

Hi

I am a woman and must say CSA system is obviously not working properly.

To give you a bit of background my OH has a daughter who he doesn't see (his ex won't let him see her) In the beginning from the day he left he paid an amount into his daughters bank account every week for 2 years. All of a sudden he gets a letter from CSA saying he must pay double that. When he asked his ex why she had went to CSA when they already had an arrangement she couldn't give him a reason, but it was clear the reason was spite. This is what I disagree with and there is no sympathy to NRP's who have had a private arrangement and are now crippled by weekly payments. As mentioned in a previous post regarding anpther ex the money doesn't go to OH's daughter like it used to with private arrangement, and now fuels his ex's spending habits..grrrrrr

Okay, so a bit off topic as I have gone off on a tangent, but just wanted people to see different sides to the story..

Anywho good luck with the tribunal

Scotlass