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Industry leaders summoned to crisis meeting on first-time buyers

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  • smeagold
    smeagold Posts: 1,429 Forumite
    julieq wrote: »
    When will the penny drop I wonder? You don't need first time buyers in a housing or any other market to sustain values.

    The inevitable result of the increase in housing prices is that fewer people will be able to afford them, from the peak of 70ish % currently. That means that the most wealthy 70% of the country, reducing over time, will hold the housing stock and trade it between each other essentially as a function of imputed or real rent.

    Which is the historical norm.

    The solution isn't more lending - that simply fuels more inflation and is self defeating. If you want more affordability, build more houses.

    Fantastic and just lock everybody else out. That will be really good for society I'm sure
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  • System
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    Our solution to the problem of lending too much? Lend more. It's a disgrace that we should reign in excess lending. Lend MORE I say, and this time, do it proper, lend double the amount!

    Erm, I think he means lend more than is being lent currently, not lend more than at peak when all the problems happened.
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  • Thrugelmir
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    And yet prices as a national average today are hovering around 2006 levels.

    And average salary levels to that of 2005.

    Seems there is a correction underway.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    Erm, I think he means lend more than is being lent currently, not lend more than at peak when all the problems happened.

    Lending is still at a peak. As in net terms, overall debt has significantly to reduce.
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    smeagold wrote: »
    Fantastic and just lock everybody else out. That will be really good for society I'm sure

    That's the historical pattern of home ownership. Its only in fairly recent times that this has been more spread out.

    What is your alternative?
  • Thrugelmir wrote: »
    And average salary levels to that of 2005.

    Seems there is a correction underway.

    So house prices back to 2006, and salaries back to 2005......

    Remind me again why that's good news for the bears?
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  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    Erm, I think he means lend more than is being lent currently, not lend more than at peak when all the problems happened.

    So, just a little bit more, eh ?

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  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    So house prices back to 2006, and salaries back to 2005......

    Remind me again why that's good news for the bears?

    Remind me again, what is the reason that the banks aren't lending, and the property market is in a mess ?
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  • Thrugelmir
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    So house prices back to 2006, and salaries back to 2005......

    Remind me again why that's good news for the bears?

    Merely an observation. I trade on facts not misguided sentiment.
  • Percy1983
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    I am getting paid a lot more than I did in 2005 so it works for me.
    Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
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    Son born 13/09/2015
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