'Ed Balls is a perfectly decent man (shock horror)' blog discussion

kar999

Flyboy152 wrote: »

At least we have some of them at the top who have some inkling about how ordinary people live.

And up until recently we had a new labour leader who appointed someone (AJ) as shadow chancellor who didn't know what the National Insurance rate was when increasing NI was the cornerstone of labours pre and post election economic policy for raising revenue.

There are almost as many millionaires and privately educated ex and present labour/shadow cabinet ministers..... Jack Straw, Harriet Harman, Liam Byrne, Shaun Woodward just to name a few. The sons of Marxist (we are all equal!!) Millibrands* and Ed Balls/Cooper are all millionaire champagne socialists. The king of them all is probably the public schoolboy now multi millionaire Blair with his web of companies.

The public schoolboy toff class card always backfires when labour try to use it as it is pure hypocrisy.

*Millionaire Ed Miliband inherited a share of a multi-million pound property from his Marxist father, some nifty footwork by him and his brother David allowed them to avoid paying six-figure inheritance taxes.

rickbonar

Fred West, Harold Shipman, numerous con men too were extremely pleasent to deal with face to face, but are con men and worse, you ought to realise that!

This politician and his equally greedy and dodgy wife is as some other commentators has said is out to feather his own nest and as far I can see so are the MAJORITY of the people in parliament right now.
Ok so far we've had David Chaytor and Lord Taylor (interesting that the true tories prejudice finally shows itself), processed as whipping boys to make it look as if the "bad apples have been removed".

Who do they think they're kidding?

I believe Lord Taylor is telling the truth when he says what he did is commonplace among politicians and such that it was regarded as normal and a perk of the position.
The Police time and time again IMHO have shown themselves to nobbled by government and so have the courts and judicial system.

I recall many of them saying as an excuse that they couldn't afford to live on the salary of only £65,000, poor souls.

flimsier

I used to know Jo Swinson MP (she started at the same university as me a couple of years after Martin left) both at University and afterwards. A genuine person who cared. I'm sure she still does. The system means she feels she has to back things that I actually don't believe she agrees with now (she is a Lib Dem MP). I had her on my facebook as a friend because of university. I can't stand to talk to her now because of her actions in the last few months (making her a hypocrite).

Why do people demonise politicians? Because they might care, but actions speak louder than words.

Flyboy152

kar999 wrote: »

And up until recently we had a new labour leader who appointed someone (AJ) as shadow chancellor who didn't know what the National Insurance rate was when increasing NI was the cornerstone of labours pre and post election economic policy for raising revenue.

There are almost as many millionaires and privately educated ex and present labour/shadow cabinet ministers..... Jack Straw, Harriet Harman, Liam Byrne, Shaun Woodward just to name a few. The sons of Marxist (we are all equal!!) Millibrands* and Ed Balls/Cooper are all millionaire champagne socialists. The king of them all is probably the public schoolboy now multi millionaire Blair with his web of companies.

The public schoolboy toff class card always backfires when labour try to use it as it is pure hypocrisy.

*Millionaire Ed Miliband inherited a share of a multi-million pound property from his Marxist father, some nifty footwork by him and his brother David allowed them to avoid paying six-figure inheritance taxes.

I suggest you review your list again and read their bios.

PaulJM

kar999 wrote: »

And up until recently we had a new labour leader who appointed someone (AJ) as shadow chancellor who didn't know what the National Insurance rate was when increasing NI was the cornerstone of labours pre and post election economic policy for raising revenue.

There are almost as many millionaires and privately educated ex and present labour/shadow cabinet ministers..... Jack Straw, Harriet Harman, Liam Byrne, Shaun Woodward just to name a few. The sons of Marxist (we are all equal!!) Millibrands* and Ed Balls/Cooper are all millionaire champagne socialists. The king of them all is probably the public schoolboy now multi millionaire Blair with his web of companies.

The public schoolboy toff class card always backfires when labour try to use it as it is pure hypocrisy.

*Millionaire Ed Miliband inherited a share of a multi-million pound property from his Marxist father, some nifty footwork by him and his brother David allowed them to avoid paying six-figure inheritance taxes.

I don't know about the others, but I think Jack Straw was educated via the state system.

Flyboy152

PaulJM wrote: »

I don't know about the others, but I think Jack Straw was educated via the state system.

And was raised on a council estate by a single mother.

Orrin

PaulJM wrote: »

I don't know about the others, but I think Jack Straw was educated via the state system.

According to wikipedia he was a boarder at Brentwood School which was a direct grant grammar, effectively a state subsidised independent school.

You could argue that because the state paid his fees he was educated via the state system, but I don't think that's what most people understand the phrase to mean.

The direct grant scheme was later abolished by Labour, naturally.

Flyboy152

Orrin wrote: »

According to wikipedia he was a boarder at Brentwood School which was a direct grant grammar, effectively a state subsidised independent school.

You could argue that because the state paid his fees he was educated via the state system, but I don't think that's what most people understand the phrase to mean.

The direct grant scheme was later abolished by Labour, naturally.

What do you know about this school from fifty years ago? He was their under a scholarship, because of his exceptional intelligence and results from primary school. I assumed that the Tory goal was social mobility, the litle man getting on in life. Or did it fail, in this case, to attract one to the right?

Orrin

Flyboy152 wrote: »

What do you know about this school from fifty years ago? He was their under a scholarship, because of his exceptional intelligence and results from primary school. I assumed that the Tory goal was social mobility, the litle man getting on in life. Or did it fail, in this case, to attract one to the right?

I know exactly what I read about it on wikipedia. Anything in particular I said about the school you feel is inaccurate?

I'm all for social mobility too, despite not being a Tory. Are you a Labour supporter? Are you in favour of social mobility? What do you think about the direct grant or assisted places schemes? Were you disappointed when Labour abolished them?

kar999

...... so that just leaves all the other ex-privately educated and/or millionaire champagne socialists including the Milliband Marxists.... or has the Jack Straw debate distracted the thread from the others?