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Spain to Ramp Up Bailout of Banks

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  • worldtraveller
    worldtraveller Posts: 14,013 Forumite
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    edited 26 May 2012 at 5:11AM
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Sounds like the rest of Europe is finally catching up with what the UK based banks did several years ago.

    Events in Europe are doing little for Lloyds share price.

    That was nothing like as serious, IMHO. The situation in Spain is very simlilar to the Republic of Ireland, but worse. Bankia has massive exposure to real estate toxic debt & bad loans, largely through the cajas. As I pointed out over a year ago in post #1, if the true figure for the bad loans held on the books of the cajas & main banks were exposed there would likely be a meltdown. There is an "independent" EU bank audit due to report soon, but many analysts are pointing to a "hole" of anything between 50-100 billion! :eek:

    Bankia, though, are the most exposed, but the main question is if the Spanish government is anything near being able to bail them out. Unlikely, IMHO. Then see HERE :)
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  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    I was in Santander this morning with a friend and there was quite a queue. A few seemed to be smiling nervously and joking about getting their money out.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • The_J
    The_J Posts: 1,250 Forumite
    I said this in another thread, Santander is a pretty strong bank and well represented in the Latin arena of growth. It will weather a Spanish crisis relatively well.
    The J is a Financial Advisor-This site doesn't check anyone's status and as such any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Always seek professional advice.
  • worldtraveller
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    edited 25 May 2012 at 8:23PM
    It goes from bad to worse....S&P have just downgraded Bankia's long-term credit rating to "junk". It's been cut one notch to BB+, from BBB-.

    S&P also said that said the outlook for Banco Santander SA was negative.
    There is a pleasure in the pathless woods, There is a rapture on the lonely shore, There is society, where none intrudes, By the deep sea, and music in its roar: I love not man the less, but Nature more...
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    I was in Santander this morning with a friend and there was quite a queue. A few seemed to be smiling nervously and joking about getting their money out.

    I'm going to be in Barcelona tomorrow.

    It'll be interesting to see if the queues at the Tapas Bars and Restaurants around Las Ramblas are as long as they used to be.
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • so...can the euro club continue to concentrate on selling austerity to the greek people and keeping greece in the euro? or has a new spanish show rolled into town that they'll now need to try and deal with?

    spain are currently saying that this is a one-off.....
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  • Graham_Devon
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    spain are currently saying that this is a one-off.....

    They denied this one off issue even existed last week!
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    so...can the euro club continue to concentrate on selling austerity to the greek people and keeping greece in the euro? or has a new spanish show rolled into town that they'll now need to try and deal with?

    Markets are already pricing in a Greek default. Attention is now turning elsewhere.
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Markets are already pricing in a Greek default. Attention is now turning elsewhere.

    Yes..the UK is being set up as the next victim by the Stalking Horses in europe anxious to deflect some of the well deserved mud from themselves. Think Germany and France..
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Yes..the UK is being set up as the next victim by the Stalking Horses in europe anxious to deflect some of the well deserved mud from themselves. Think Germany and France..

    What do you mean please? Without wishing to sound rude, this post appears to be utter rubbish. Can you clarify?

    You appear to be saying that France and Germany can somehow engineer a UK fiscal crisis.
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