Help! - I've resigned. :(

Uncertain

TEDDYRUKSPIN wrote: »

In rare cases, references are not what they are nowadays. Most references only need to state if you have worked there before and only contact the HR department. If you specific a specific person, which would be stupid, they should never write a reference letter which will result you losing your chance of obtaining a new job.

Too many people have fell for this. Companies are only allowed to decline to offer a job reference. They must reply back that they have worked there before.

Time and time again you come on here spouting this absolute rubbish about references!

If asked for a reference a company can say anything they like PROVIDING IT IS TRUE and is NOT DELIBERATELY MISLEADING. Subject to this the effect it may have on an ex employees chances of getting another job has nothing whatever to do with it!

Some firms may have internal rules limiting what staff are allowed to put in references.

A firm IS NOT OBLIGED to respond to a reference request and cannot be made to even confirm that they employed the person if they don't want to. They are breaking no law if they simply put any requests they get in the bin.

You are really not helping anybody by endlessly regurgitating this total nonsense.

Emmzi

It does sound like you were not suited to this kind of work, and are better off out of it.

Work won't reward you for trying hard, they need results, not effort - and if it isn't the right match for you, then it isn't, and you are as well moving on.

I may be alone, but I think your boss was actually trying to do you a favour. S/he will be well aware of the outcome of your situation - they will have been through the process before and were trying to spare you a "dismissed for poor performance" record which would make it very difficult to find employment again. Plus, the process is very stressful for everyone involved, especially you.

I don't see any bullying here, just application of internal procedures which you did not like. But, that doesn't make it bullying. Your manager told you the likely outcome, and gave you some advice. Again, not bullying.

I wish you lots of luck with your job search. I hope you find something less stressful for you in an environment hat suits you better.

Emmzi

TEDDYRUKSPIN wrote: »

In future, do not panic because you will be sacked. In rare cases, references are not what they are nowadays. Most references only need to state if you have worked there before and only contact the HR department. If you specific a specific person, which would be stupid, they should never write a reference letter which will result you losing your chance of obtaining a new job.

Once again Teddy - THIS IS WRONG. Still haven't found any law to back it up, have you? Please stop saying it, it is harmful.

serious_saver

Forget the job! You are out of there and it's for the best.

Go to the job centre as soon as possible to get some advice. If they decide to offer you JSA they can sometimes back date it to the date of your application but no earlier so it's important to get the application in as soon as possible. In fact you can do it online and they might be able to back date it to the day you sent the form even if it takes a couple of days for them to call you back. I was on JSA a few years ago for about a month and I can say they were very good to me especially when it came to sending me relevant jobs (admittedly the bottom has fallen out of the job market since then).

If in future if you are worried about your reference consider joining a temp agency. Many don't require a reference for entry level jobs but will ask for you to take some tests instead. Most employers ask for two references and can take a relatively short time to get them if you are a temp.

And just remember, no job is worth making yourself ill.

langsmith

[/QUOTE] Most references only need to state if you have worked there before and only contact the HR department... Companies are only allowed to decline to offer a job reference. They must reply back that they have worked there before.[/QUOTE]

I have been told that this is indeed the case from my past employer. Nobody within the group can give references, everything goes via HR, and they just confirm the basics.

I have too had a similar situation as the OP. I fought it... and won !! Bullying at any level is not acceptable.

stu12345_2

i believe if you do something bad like swear, assault you can get sacked, but if you just arent fit or qualified for the job, eg get lost on route as a bus driver or fail to hit sales targets in acall centre, then its not disciplinary, basically your not the best for the job and an employer makes yo redudant as unsuitable.
people have to understand and stop using the term i will get sacked so loosely,u should say i will be formally dismissed on grouinds of offensive act i did (bad)or i will be paid off/contract sadly ended as im not qaulified for the job,(good, not disciplinary fault) it sounds to me you arent a good saleperson so you have to be let go from ur employer( not sacked) but just unsuitable and hence claim jsa no probs , dont resign, just wait till ur boss says ur not hitting tatgets, the jobs not for you, we have to let u go, fine no probs.
you have done nothing malice or violent etc, ur just not up to the job and hence its not a sacking its letting u go and thus caim without any worries as he had to let u go.
i was a postman with delivery targets, i wasnt very fast at sorting, butgot faster, but if i didnt i would be let go as i wasnt skilled enough, no fault of my own and hence not discplinary and sign on no prob cos u would be let go as unsuitable for the type of job
my last job i did i found i wasnt picking things up in my head as fast as boss wanted and spoke to me, he said i give you 3 months to learn job otherwise sadly ill let you go, no fault of ur own obviously, just the job wasnt for you.
anyway i did resign but only cos i moved home to another county and could not commute and got jsa no probs as it was a pt time job and if i commuted the bus fares would be more than the wages.I did say that to the dss and they did understand

Pete111

My take on this

1) The Op was not suited to this work and the stress of it made her unwell.

2) The employer followed a process though clearly (like the OP) her boss did not think she could cut it and did up the ante - but remember, they are being judged on their sucess of their team also. Before a dismissal came into effect the Mgr gave the OP an 'out' and realistically from what she has posted there is nothing that is going to stick easily as regards unfair dismissal. I am pleased she is not looking to go down this route.

Please bear in mind also that the company could likely have simply fired the OP within 12 months without any comeback whatsoever - However, they did not do this and now the OP can simply state correctly that she resigned due to the role being wrong for her.

3) References are often 'bare bones' these days but there is absolutely nothing to stop an employer including facts (good or bad) in a reference. This includes the reason for leaving.

OP, best of luck going forward.

Lb86

Anne,
It sounds like you did the best thing for yourself in the long run. In regards to the jobcentre you need to ring up to make a new claim. They will then book you with a new claims adviser who will go through your claim. They will ask you why you left and also contact your employer to check your reasons are the same. This then goes to the decision maker. This can take quite a while so in the meantime they will pay your benefit. If it did get stopped you can claim hardship but I believe you have to wait about 2 weeks before you can do this. Hope that is of some help