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Sherforce - spot of help please!
Toon_Army
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Hello all,
I'm sure Sherforce have registered on here many times (apologies if this is in the wrong area) but I think I'm coming from a different angle to most.
I took a Ltd company/Director to tribunal last year for unpaid wages and won. He failed to pay and so I followed the Fast-Track scheme for tribunal payments. I was sent the details of Sherforce and so I let them get on with getting my money.
Well, I say 'get on' what I really mean is 'do precisely knack all'. They eventually went to the site (despite me telling them the place would be locked, uninhabited etc.) and blow me, if they couldn't get in. Of course, they happened to do this on the one day I was out of the country and so couldn't tell them to break the doors in and at least get basic costs back.
Long and short of it is that the EO took the word of the landlord (who mysteriously turned up) that he had a TPC in on the goods in the building (he hadn't at the time) and they then told me they were closing the writ as 'unenforceable'. We obviously have different definitions of enforcement.
After hearing nothing for a month or two, a day or two after Xmas the first of 4 letters from Sherforce arrived asking me to pay £70 for their trouble. Now, not one of these letters says I must pay by date or what will happen if I don't. They even want me to indicate on the paper that I'm either entirely satisfied with their service or want to talk to someone about it. Given the success I had trying to talk to anyone there with a basic understanding of law, I'm not choosing the latter.
I wonder if anyone has any experience of not paying this grotesque fee for failure? As far as I can see, the sum total of their efforts was to send a bloke to an address I told them would be locked and made no effort to get in and took the word of a landlord that all the stuff belonged to him (which it doesn't). I have already paid the £50 fee to process the non-payment of the tribunal award and don't see why I should pay another penny when the scumbag who has LOST the case still has not paid anything.
As far as the unpaid wages goes, me and 2 others (started the same tribunal a few months after me) are exploring ways we can get anything back from this situation. My anger stems from the fact that everything appears to be geared towards the shysters who open businesses and don't pay wages and strongly against those whom the legal system have deemed wronged i.e. the staff/creditors.
I can find plenty of help on how I (as a shyster) can avoid paying anything but I can't find anything on how I (as a wronged ex-employee) can get what I am legally entitled to. Tell me how that's right.
Anyone with any practical help will be greatly appreciated!
I'm sure Sherforce have registered on here many times (apologies if this is in the wrong area) but I think I'm coming from a different angle to most.
I took a Ltd company/Director to tribunal last year for unpaid wages and won. He failed to pay and so I followed the Fast-Track scheme for tribunal payments. I was sent the details of Sherforce and so I let them get on with getting my money.
Well, I say 'get on' what I really mean is 'do precisely knack all'. They eventually went to the site (despite me telling them the place would be locked, uninhabited etc.) and blow me, if they couldn't get in. Of course, they happened to do this on the one day I was out of the country and so couldn't tell them to break the doors in and at least get basic costs back.
Long and short of it is that the EO took the word of the landlord (who mysteriously turned up) that he had a TPC in on the goods in the building (he hadn't at the time) and they then told me they were closing the writ as 'unenforceable'. We obviously have different definitions of enforcement.
After hearing nothing for a month or two, a day or two after Xmas the first of 4 letters from Sherforce arrived asking me to pay £70 for their trouble. Now, not one of these letters says I must pay by date or what will happen if I don't. They even want me to indicate on the paper that I'm either entirely satisfied with their service or want to talk to someone about it. Given the success I had trying to talk to anyone there with a basic understanding of law, I'm not choosing the latter.
I wonder if anyone has any experience of not paying this grotesque fee for failure? As far as I can see, the sum total of their efforts was to send a bloke to an address I told them would be locked and made no effort to get in and took the word of a landlord that all the stuff belonged to him (which it doesn't). I have already paid the £50 fee to process the non-payment of the tribunal award and don't see why I should pay another penny when the scumbag who has LOST the case still has not paid anything.
As far as the unpaid wages goes, me and 2 others (started the same tribunal a few months after me) are exploring ways we can get anything back from this situation. My anger stems from the fact that everything appears to be geared towards the shysters who open businesses and don't pay wages and strongly against those whom the legal system have deemed wronged i.e. the staff/creditors.
I can find plenty of help on how I (as a shyster) can avoid paying anything but I can't find anything on how I (as a wronged ex-employee) can get what I am legally entitled to. Tell me how that's right.
Anyone with any practical help will be greatly appreciated!
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No idea I'm afraid but hopefully bumping his thread will get it spotted by someone who can help or if a BG has a better idea where it should go that might get you some answers.
Whole situation sounds horrid and you're right to be angry. Hope someone can help you resolve this.
Do you need it? Yep. Really? Yes! How have you managed for the last 28 years without it? Erm....
NO NAUGHTY SHOPPING Bex.0 -
As a note to this, I've noticed that in the original guff Sherforce sent to me, they state that a fee of £60 + VAT will be charged for 'every address you ask us to attend' and having looked back at my archived writ, there is no record of me specifically asking them to attend any address.
The bills they keep sending (showing far more desire to chase me for money than they appeared to exhibit chasing the debtor...) simply state 'Abortive report 60.00 VAT 10.50' on them.
I think I'll be within my rights to continue ignoring these requests, partly because I think they'll pursue me as well as they pursued the debtor, but also because I don't believe I have done what they are trying to charge me for. That said, I really don't want to talk to them about it given the frustrations I experienced when talking to them when they were 'enforcing' the debt collection.
Thoughts anyone?0 -
I would start by writing them a letter stating why you are refusing to pay them.There's no sense crying over every mistake.
You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.0 -
I cannot be specific with advice because I am not qualified, but I would advise that ignoring letters will not end well for you...
Take advice, register unhappiness but don't bury your head in the sand over what could be a legal debt.Sealed pot challange no: 3390
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