Your property up north is worth far less than in the south east!!

Cleaver

chucknorris wrote: »

Trust me on this cleaver the weather is defintely better in the South, there is no doubt in my mind, you have to speak as you find and that is my experience of about 25 years in each location.

But as you can see, the stats on the two areas we're talking about seem to disagree with your anecdotal findings.

chucknorris

Cleaver wrote: »

But as you can see, the stats on the two areas we're talking about seem to disagree with your anecdotal findings.

Yes they do but nevertheless I would rather rely on my own experience

Cleaver

chucknorris wrote: »

Short sleeved tee shirts are generally worn in Newcastle even in winter, more to do with daftness than weather (I know I was one of them). I reckon any Jan Friday/Sat night you could spot people in summer clothes in the Bigg Market.

We don't need to look at t-shirt wearing, we can look at temperature charts! Average highs and lows for January, followed by inches in rain, in Newcastle compared with some southern places:

Newcastle: 6.2 / 0.6 2.21 inches
London: 8.0 / 2.4 2.01 inches
Bristol: 7.2 / 2.8 3.80 inches
Southampton: 7.8 / 2.8 3.50 inches
Oxford: 6.8 / 1.4 2.07 inches
Plymouth: 9.0 / 3.0 4.49 inches

So wearing t-shirts in any of these places would be silly, as the temperatures are roughly the same in all these places. Newcastle might be one degree or so colder, which you'd expect with it being a couple of hundred miles away. But at least you'd have more chance of being dry in Newcastle compared to a lot of southern places that get more rain.

Cleaver

chucknorris wrote: »

Yes they do but nevertheless I would rather rely on my own experience

I find that quite strange, but fair enough!

PhylPho

Was this Daily Mail article published 50 years ago?? Or is it supposed to be, er, news??

Southeast living was always more expensive than in the North where like-for-like properties are concerned. And as for the capital, "London weighting" on wage agreements dates back to even pre-war days.

The cost difference comes into play only if you feel the need to leave the north and head south. If you're happy where you are, then, as usual, the Mail story is a b0ll0cks piece for a slow news day, notable only for being a re-write of the bleedin' obvious circa 1961.

PasturesNew

Where I live it's warmer, but very much wetter and very bl00dy windy.
Where I grew up, the winters came from Siberia and it was FREEZING!!! (the Fens). I was glad to get away from the cold at first, then I realised it's warmer, but wetter and windier - and I hate the wind as it's weather you can't "dress for".

Right now it's like a summer's day outside. It's been warm and sunny, with blue skies, all day. T shirt weather indeed. Beach weather even. The local weather station (keen and tooled up amateur) says it's 8.4 degrees right now, but without any wind that's very warm. It's wind that makes things cold.

This winter I saw one snow fall, one night, about 1", which lay in the garden for 6 days and went, that was early December. Most years I never see snow at all, it's a real novelty. I've probably seen snow here 3-4x on a single occasion each year in the past 12 years.

According to the BBC Weather site, this week, here it'll be 8-12 degrees, with night-time temperatures of 8-11.

Where I live, we pay London prices for "things", things you buy, meals, events, things you buy in life. For houses/rents we pay the same as a lot of London prices, not "mad/inner London prices", but certainly on par with prices inside the M25. What we don't get is the choice, variety and access to these things, so you have to travel miles to even get to pay a high price for something. There are no jobs either, I think it's the only place on the lists they produce where wages are in the lowest table and house prices are in the highest table.

I'm moving .... for all of the bad reasons I listed above .... but staying South, just moving 200 miles to the right.

happy35

I now live in the North and would say that it is a bit colder than in the South but I don't think it seems to rain as much.

chucknorris

Cleaver wrote: »

We don't need to look at t-shirt wearing, we can look at temperature charts! Average highs and lows for January, followed by inches in rain, in Newcastle compared with some southern places:

Newcastle: 6.2 / 0.6 2.21 inches
London: 8.0 / 2.4 2.01 inches
Bristol: 7.2 / 2.8 3.80 inches
Southampton: 7.8 / 2.8 3.50 inches
Oxford: 6.8 / 1.4 2.07 inches
Plymouth: 9.0 / 3.0 4.49 inches

So wearing t-shirts in any of these places would be silly, as the temperatures are roughly the same in all these places. Newcastle might be one degree or so colder, which you'd expect with it being a couple of hundred miles away. But at least you'd have more chance of being dry in Newcastle compared to a lot of southern places that get more rain.

Wow I didn't realise Devon was so much warmer, that ave highest of 9 is warmer than I expected, although it looks like the rainfall lets it down badly.

It's about 300 miles from me in Surrey which probably makes it nearer 2 degrees different on average. But these are averages in reality what you get is probably 4 or 5 warmer days by more than that margin which is a whole lot better from my point of view. But as I said for me it's more of the spring/autumn temperatures that make the difference as I like to do outdoor things like tennis, cycling, running and walking and these will be unpleasant in the South UK too in winter.

For me the biggest difference between the North and mainly London rather than the whole of the South (here comes a huge generalisation which is now going to upset the Londoners) is the friendliness of the people towards strangers.

ninky_2

Cleaver wrote: »

When I tell people I live in Manchester they always say that they like the city, but all the rain would get on their nerves. So from Wikipedia about Manchester:

perhaps they are comparing it to london which receives less rain per annum than rome, sydney or new york city. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_the_United_Kingdom

the wettest areas are near mountains such as the pennines.

brixham

I can see Cleavers point but some places seem to have their own little micro climate.

Here in Torbay we have seen a slight powdering of snow before Christmas. Woke up one day to hear on the news that Devon had come to a standstill due to snow.......opened my curtains....nope ...nothing.

In winter I have regularly driven to Newton Abbot (10 miles or so inland) to see a 4 degree (how do you do the little degree 0 in a keyboard ?) difference.
Glad to see his sats confirm my belief that it always rains in Plymouth though !
Oh and noticed today I have daffs coming up !