Shapps: Talk of ending house price boom and bust is 'foolish'

mostlycheerful

Abaxas : “What a load of tosh.

Communism would sort it :P”

No, communism always fails, as has been abundantly proven by all the failed attempts around the world. Capitalism is the only successful system available.

With communism the human greed is vested in the state so the insiders who are members of the party get anything they want whenever they want and everyone else has to queue up for 10 years or pay a bribe to a party member. With capitalism the human greed is vested in the hands of corporations, shareholders and individuals and with strong, competent, efficient, democratic, mostly non corrupt government, all of these are taxed, regulated, cut down to size and controlled by the state. But not overly controlled to the point of being rendered non functional.

Hence with communism there’s always an unaccountable corrupt elite dictatorship acting like kings and mafioso chiefs and ruling by force, murder and fear, and the majority of the populace are ripped off and trodden underfoot. With democratic capitalism everyone’s a winner and the resultant free market meritocracy encourages hard workers to do well and with taxation, human rights, employment laws, minority rights and social services even the poor, weak and vulnerable are given a slice of the pie, as is currently the case in all advanced developed countries.

It can be argued that the poor are currently often not being given a sufficiently large slice of the pie but that’s a separate problem. The poor in democratic capitalist countries are universally much better off than the poor in communist countries.

Of course the populace in capitalist countries run by undemocratic corrupt despotic tyrants, as in Africa, are just as bad off as they would be under communism.

Currently house prices are crashing in 8 out of 10 areas in UK. In all the cheap undesirable parts of the country houses are within reach of young wage earners using mortgages. Interestingly wages up north and in Wales etc are often two thirds what they are in London but the property is often a quarter the price. So property is much more affordable in the undesirable parts of the country. It’s only in the rich desirable south that you have to be rich if you want the luxury of owning your own place.

So poor people who prefer to live in London rather than in the undesirable places have to rent, either privately or in council places, if you can get to the top of the waiting lists which, of course, are currently mostly given over to foreigners and single mums on benefits.

So that’s where a lot of the problem lies, giving the council housing to foreigners and single mums on benefits, some of whom, of course, choose this option as a lifestyle choice as sitting around all day watching a 40 inch plasma telly, texting, playing computer games, drinking booze and taking drugs sure beats working.

twadge_face

mostlycheerful wrote: »

No, communism always fails, as has been abundantly proven by all the failed attempts around the world. Capitalism is the only successful system available.

With communism the human greed is vested in the state so the insiders who are members of the party get anything they want whenever they want and everyone else has to queue up for 10 years or pay a bribe to a party member. With capitalism the human greed is vested in the hands of corporations, shareholders and individuals and with strong, competent, efficient, democratic, mostly non corrupt government, all of these are taxed, regulated, cut down to size and controlled by the state. But not overly controlled to the point of being rendered non functional.

I like your style.

Hence with communism there’s always an unaccountable corrupt elite dictatorship acting like kings and mafioso chiefs and ruling by force, murder and fear, and the majority of the populace are ripped off and trodden underfoot. With democratic capitalism everyone’s a winner and the resultant free market meritocracy encourages hard workers to do well and with taxation, human rights, employment laws, minority rights and social services even the poor, weak and vulnerable are given a slice of the pie, as is currently the case in all advanced developed countries.

That's awesome if you rule a communist state then.

It can be argued that the poor are currently often not being given a sufficiently large slice of the pie but that’s a separate problem. The poor in democratic capitalist countries are universally much better off than the poor in communist countries.

Of course the populace in capitalist countries run by undemocratic corrupt despotic tyrants, as in Africa, are just as bad off as they would be under communism.

No-one really gives a damn about the poor. Besides, we're all middle class these days thanks to credit and HPI.

Currently house prices are crashing in 8 out of 10 areas in UK. In all the cheap undesirable parts of the country houses are within reach of young wage earners using mortgages. Interestingly wages up north and in Wales etc are often two thirds what they are in London but the property is often a quarter the price. So property is much more affordable in the undesirable parts of the country. It’s only in the rich desirable south that you have to be rich if you want the luxury of owning your own place.

Unsupported by relevant employment though. People come to London to work as well you know.

So poor people who prefer to live in London rather than in the undesirable places have to rent, either privately or in council places, if you can get to the top of the waiting lists which, of course, are currently mostly given over to foreigners and single mums on benefits.

I read this in the Daily Mail as well.

So that’s where a lot of the problem lies, giving the council housing to foreigners and single mums on benefits, some of whom, of course, choose this option as a lifestyle choice as sitting around all day watching a 40 inch plasma telly, texting, playing computer games, drinking booze and taking drugs sure beats working.

And smoking tabs. You forgot smoking tabs. That's what they do.