BTL, vile lowlife business, nobody wants to be living under their roofs

avantra

I agree that we need to adopt a fairer system like the Germans and French of long term rental market with proper regulations, not like the wishy washy standards applied to BTL at the moment.

However before we can take this step forward even reptiles got their function in evolutionary chain, and TBH in the villages around here a lot of them are pulling out after sucking the life out of the communities so on balance there may be less of them now than few years ago.

The_Fox_3

avantra wrote: »

I agree that we need to adopt a fairer system like the Germans and French of long term rental market with proper regulations, not like the wishy washy standards applied to BTL at the moment.

However before we can take this step forward even reptiles got their function in evolutionary chain, and TBH in the villages around here a lot of them are pulling out after sucking the life out of the communities so on balance there may be less of them now than few years ago.

Yet another area i did not mention!, you are correct in you terminology about these people sucking the the life out of the communities, but to be fair this is also down to second home owners, which i also have huge issues with.
I know Dorset and Devon quite well and i know the damage these people have caused, but closer to my heart is North Norfolk, the damage they have caused will take decades to reverse if ever the damage is ever going to be reversed.
There were some wonderfull communities here years ago, now many areas are just full of vulgar city types who turn up for a few days here and there.
These patronising types who think they can attend the odd village Fete or make a big deal out of just using local produce(which i am a big fan of) have ripped the soul out of some of these lovely coastal villages.

JanCee

Who sold the properties to these patronising city types? Was it those salt of the earth locals, the heart of the community types, who wanted to sell to the highest bidder rather than to another local who would have kept the community spirit going?

Graham_Devon

JanCee wrote: »

Who sold the properties to these patronising city types? Was it those salt of the earth locals, the heart of the community types, who wanted to sell to the highest bidder rather than to another local who would have kept the community spirit going?

Should we blame those in sweat shops for selling the clothes cheap to the western nations?

It's their own fault. If they didn't sell these clothes to us so cheap, we wouldn't buy them. They are exploiting themselves.

JanCee

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Should we blame those in sweat shops for selling the clothes cheap to the western nations?

It's their own fault. If they didn't sell these clothes to us so cheap, we wouldn't buy them. They are exploiting themselves.

You may be able to see similarities between an exploited worker in a 3rd world sweat shop and the owner of a desirable property in a sought after area in the UK, but I'm afraid that I can't.

Graham_Devon

JanCee wrote: »

You may be able to see similarities between an exploited worker in a 3rd world sweat shop and the owner of a desirable property in a sought after area in the UK, but I'm afraid that I can't.

Probably because you are unwilling to look.

You are trying to lay blame on the normal run of the mill families for selling their homes for higher prices as prices rose, than look at those highly invested in property, such as banks, landlords, EA's etc...those that were making the price rises happen.

Those families had to sell at higher prices in order to buy their next home. What were they supposed to do?

Laying the blame on normal families for selling their houses at the new market value, is as much use as blaming those working in sweat shops for taking what they can and making cheap clothes in order to survive, and ignoring the masssive influence we have on those prices and those peoples lives.

twadge_face

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Should we blame those in sweat shops for selling the clothes cheap to the western nations?

It's their own fault. If they didn't sell these clothes to us so cheap, we wouldn't buy them. They are exploiting themselves.

We are a child-like race which doesn't know what's best for ourselves.

Good job the tenants of BTL are exploiting themselves too!

Capitalism is just super, isn't it? :j

I mean... the power of CHOICE in a FREE MARKET.

Linton

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Probably because you are unwilling to look.

You are trying to lay blame on the normal run of the mill families for selling their homes for higher prices as prices rose, than look at those highly invested in property, such as banks, landlords, EA's etc...those that were making the price rises happen.

The people making house price rises happen are the Great British Public outbidding each other to get hold of the house they want. Banks, Landlords and EAs merely ride the wave.

Cleaver

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Laying the blame on normal families for selling their houses at the new market value, is as much use as blaming those working in sweat shops for taking what they can and making cheap clothes in order to survive, and ignoring the masssive influence we have on those prices and those peoples lives.

Oh c'mon Graham. Pretty much everyone over the last decade or so was rubbing their hands with glee at HPI, not just landlords. Paint stuff white, wooden floor, £20k in the bank. Everyone was at it, including 'normal families', and the comparison with sweat shops isn't really the same, is it?

chucky

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Probably because you are unwilling to look.

You are trying to lay blame on the normal run of the mill families for selling their homes for higher prices as prices rose, than look at those highly invested in property, such as banks, landlords, EA's etc...those that were making the price rises happen.

Those families had to sell at higher prices in order to buy their next home. What were they supposed to do?

Laying the blame on normal families for selling their houses at the new market value, is as much use as blaming those working in sweat shops for taking what they can and making cheap clothes in order to survive, and ignoring the masssive influence we have on those prices and those peoples lives.

lol

these 'normal families' don't have to sell just like they don't need to buy another if they thought that their local village was so important...

comparing seling and buying property to people in the 3rd world is desperate