P800 - state pension

Gas_Powered_Toothbrush

Pennywise wrote: »

I'd certainly make an ESC claim - it's only an hour or so of your time, a piece of paper and a stamp.

Stupid advice like is one of the reasons that HMRC have a large post backlog.

Pennywise wrote: »

At the end of the day, it seems it's another case where DWP HAS been telling HMRC over several years, but HMRC havn't acted upon information they've been given

Wrong. There isn't constant information flow between the DWP and HMRC. If the system works perfectly, they will inform HMRC when the pension starts, and how much it is per week. Then they'll inform HMRC of the percentage increase each year for all pensioners. If HMRC haven't been told the initial amount, then the annual uprating will have no effect.

Mikeyorks

Gas_Powered_Toothbrush wrote: »

If HMRC haven't been told the initial amount, then the annual uprating will have no effect.

Very significant .......... and 100% accurate.

Pennywise

OK, so if DWP don't tell HMRC every year, and the taxpayer hasn't told HMRC, then the mere fact that HMRC have suddenly "discovered" that the taxpayer was getting a state pension, and seem to have the right amount, that suggests that HMRC knew all along, and simply didn't act on information they already had. I think that it's likely that DWP did tell HMRC when the pension started and that HMRC didn't act on that information. If that's the case, then surely ESC A19 must apply. I think the OP would be crazy not to make an application under the ESC - if HMRC really didn't know from the outset, then that's fair enough, but I think, on balance of probabilities, this is just another case where they are at fault and the ESC will be given.