Selfish Britain

macaque_2

UK's young jobless total 'among worst in Europe'

20 years ago, when people were poorer, this would have been front page news week after week. Today however, such news is squeezed out by headlines on house prices.

People welcome mass immigration if they think it will push up house prices. They don't give two hoots that young families are forced to live in undersized accomodation if this is the result of high house prices. Instead they lecture us on how tough it was for them to 'get on the housing ladder' (when prices were 3X income instead of 6X). Home owners would kill their own grandmothers if they thought it might push house prices up.

The phrase 'affordable housing' is a hypocrisy invented by people who are saying 'I care passionately about social issues so as long as they don't affect the value of my home'. Baby boomers have become the selfish generation. They give £2 a month to saving children in Africa and don't give a fig about the plight of school leavers on their own doorstep.

The massive rise has left the UK with a much higher youth jobless rate than many other European countries, including Germany, Denmark, Austria, Norway and Holland.

http://www.24dash.com/news/communities/2010-12-02-UKs-young-jobless-total-among-worst-in-Europe-research

1984ReturnsForReal_2

macaque wrote: »

Home owners would kill their own grandmothers if they thought it might push house prices up.

There is a few of them on here.


And a couple that have obviously already done it & anyone could be their next target.


Best to keep a low profile.

paul1964_2

macaque wrote: »

The phrase 'affordable housing' is a hypocrisy invented by people who are saying 'I care passionately about social issues so as long as they don't affect the value of my home'.

I used to live in a smallish village - one pub, one shop. It always used to amaze me how the pub "locals" had two very strong views on local housing issues.....

1) How terrible it was that their offspring couldn't afford to buy in the village and had to move away.

2) How terrible it was that their house prices could be affected because developers had put in for planning permission to build on land at the edge of the village.

I once tried to point out that there was a link between the two, but it was the kind of village where you were dismissed as an "incomer" if your sister and auntie were different people.

hshen

paul1964 wrote: »

I used to live in a smallish village - one pub, one shop. It always used to amaze me how the pub "locals" had two very strong views on local housing issues.....

1) How terrible it was that their offspring couldn't afford to buy in the village and had to move away.

2) How terrible it was that their house prices could be affected because developers had put in for planning permission to build on land at the edge of the village.

I once tried to point out that there was a link between the two, but it was the kind of village where you were dismissed as an "incomer" if your sister and auntie were different people.

Classic!

1984ReturnsForReal_2

paul1964 wrote: »

I once tried to point out that there was a link between the two, but it was the kind of village where you were dismissed as an "incomer" if your sister and auntie were different people.

Sounds like my village.

You haven't got an a bloke that hasn't paid tax in all his life but yet works all the time & when he is not working takes one of his 3 cars down 5 different pubs so he doesn't get nicked drink driving?
:rotfl:


But he does chip in all his change from beer to the Air Ambulance...... Honest.......

Sibley

20 years ago, when people were poorer, this would have been front page news week after week. Today however, such news is squeezed out by headlines on house prices.

People welcome mass immigration if they think it will push up house prices. They don't give two hoots that young families are forced to live in undersized accomodation if this is the result of high house prices. Instead they lecture us on how tough it was for them to 'get on the housing ladder' (when prices were 3X income instead of 6X). Home owners would kill their own grandmothers if they thought it might push house prices up.

The phrase 'affordable housing' is a hypocrisy invented by people who are saying 'I care passionately about social issues so as long as they don't affect the value of my home'. Baby boomers have become the selfish generation. They give £2 a month to saving children in Africa and don't give a fig about the plight of school leavers on their own doorstep.

I suppose you would want your house to lose 50% of it's value then?

Well, if you had one that is. I promise you once your names on a set of deeds you will be happy it rises. I do care about other people being priced out but I care about my retirement and family more. Sorry an all that.

paul1964_2

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

You haven't got an a bloke that hasn't paid tax in all his life but yet works all the time & when he is not working takes one of his 3 cars down 5 different pubs so he doesn't get nicked drink driving?

He needs the car to sign on down the dole office where he can moan about all the unemployed bleeding the country dry.

ILW

Sibley wrote: »

I suppose you would want your house to lose 50% of it's value then?

Well, if you had one that is. I promise you once your names on a set of deeds you will be happy it rises. I do care about other people being priced out but I care about my retirement and family more. Sorry an all that.

Would make no difference to me if my house dropped 50%, as long as all the others did.

lostinrates

ILW wrote: »

Would make no difference to me if my house dropped 50%, as long as all the others did.

It would make a difference tome,we'd still be paying the debt off on the higher price. But that doesn't mean it might not be better for the majority.

ILW

i don't think a 50% drop would be too good for many, but I do believe if the prices had not risen as much over the last 15 years, then things would have been better for most.

lostinrates

ILW wrote: »

i don't think a 50% drop would be too good for many, but I do believe if the prices had not risen as much over the last 15 years, then things would have been better for most.

Yes. I agree. And beyond housing too...investment in pensions and business might have been greater, and social commitment,feeling an investment in YOUR area.

BUT we are now where we are. so have to consider where it is that things go from now.