pregnant and dangerous job, please help!

BLT_2

Morty_007 wrote: »

Agree with Feisty on this one. This is out of order and unnecessary. Nobody tells their employer they are going to try and get pregnant...we don't even know if Feistys baby was planned (although we do now because she has been on the TTC board, lol). What if you tell your employer and then it takes 18 months?! They DO still have an asset, sadly they seem to be struggling with how to actually put that asset to good use.

You are clearly an ageing, bitter, twisted man who doesn't believe in the rights of women to have babies AND have a job and who resents the measures put in place by the government to enable people (yes people, it's not just the women who benefit from having a child, they just happen to be the ones who put thier lives and careers on hold to do so.) to have families.

Either that or you're a TROLL. :cool:

If she wants to have a baby so be it, but thats a personal choice. I fail to see why the company should subsidise it by providing paid gardening leave.

If she doesn't feel like the job she is in is suitable for a pregnant women then she had the choice of not getting pregnant or getting an alternative job.

And as for not telling the company she was trying to get pregnant, why not? If she knew her work wasn't suitable for a pregnant woman then she could have given them pre warning, rather than presenting them with a fait accompli, dumping the problem in their court and then whining that she wasn't being treated right.

I note you declare yourself as a domestic goddess. This usually reads as overweight professional Jeremy Kyle watcher living off of her husbands hard earned income whilst munching on cream cakes and declaring to all and sundry that she is a BBW (PMSL).

What is clear is that you are a professional bore. That TROLL line was old and tired years ago but you are still using it. You might want to get some new lines.

mountainofdebt

being very presumptious here but I'm guessing that thre majority of the staff (both at the home where the OP works and in the company's other homes) are women, I'm guessing that the OP won't be the first member of staff to become pregnant.

So what happened in their cases?

Googlewhacker

mountainofdebt wrote: »

being very presumptious here but I'm guessing that thre majority of the staff (both at the home where the OP works and in the company's other homes) are women, I'm guessing that the OP won't be the first member of staff to become pregnant.

So what happened in their cases?

The OP has said they got moved to another house earlier on but there is already one pregnant person there at the moment so it is more difficult to move them there

sukysue

I think you should try to resolve this amicably with your employers, be reasonable and I am sure they will try to meet you halfway, after all they won't want anything to happen to you or your baby. Perhaps for your baby's sake you need to go and work in a safer environment but I don't think you wanting to go on gardening leave is very fair to anyone. You are fully able to work until well into pregnancy, even if diagnosed with pre eclampsia it does not occur this early in pregnancy and indeed it is much less severe in subsequent pregnancies.If you do succumb to it then you will be fully entitled to go onto incapacity then. As for BLT he is being rather rude and it does him a disservice.

Morty_007

BLT wrote: »

I note you declare yourself as a domestic goddess. This usually reads as overweight professional Jeremy Kyle watcher living off of her husbands hard earned income whilst munching on cream cakes and declaring to all and sundry that she is a BBW (PMSL).

What is clear is that you are a professional bore. That TROLL line was old and tired years ago but you are still using it. You might want to get some new lines.

:rotfl::rotfl:the fact that you don't get the irony of my "declaring myself a domestic goddess" (written by the way, 3 years ago) goes to show 2 things:

1. you really are that old man I described earlier...and 2. you know nothing about me because your comments could not be further from the truth.

as for the TROLL comment...if the cap fits wear it. I've based my comments about you on the tone of your post, you have based yours about me on one line of my profile and the need to protect your pride having been called up for being a bully.

What is clear is that you are not interested in adding anthing constructive to this discussion so why not go wind someone else up.

ETA: actually, the whole time you are picking on me, you're not picking on the OP so you carry on mate...not so fun when the person won't be bullied is it?

mumps

BLT wrote: »

If she wants to have a baby so be it, but thats a personal choice. I fail to see why the company should subsidise it by providing paid gardening leave.

If she doesn't feel like the job she is in is suitable for a pregnant women then she had the choice of not getting pregnant or getting an alternative job.

And as for not telling the company she was trying to get pregnant, why not? If she knew her work wasn't suitable for a pregnant woman then she could have given them pre warning, rather than presenting them with a fait accompli, dumping the problem in their court and then whining that she wasn't being treated right.

I note you declare yourself as a domestic goddess. This usually reads as overweight professional Jeremy Kyle watcher living off of her husbands hard earned income whilst munching on cream cakes and declaring to all and sundry that she is a BBW (PMSL).

What is clear is that you are a professional bore. That TROLL line was old and tired years ago but you are still using it. You might want to get some new lines.

Hope you don't mind me coming here, thought I could look at it from the employers point of view as I am a Personnel Manager in similar organisation. It can be difficult when staff get pregnant but we have to do risk assessments on staff for all sorts of reasons; after a fall, after a sports accident, if they develope a condition like epilepsy or diabetes. In fact we risk assess everyone all the time, is it safe to leave that woman looking after a male service user who is being aggressive, is it safe to leave that man with a female service user who makes allegations about men, is that facial piercing safe if you have to do restraint. Pregnancy is just another thing we have to consider.

Speaking for my organisation we have had one woman who took loads of time off sick throughout pregnancy and didn't return to work. All the other women worked through pregnancy and have returned to us and we wouldn't want to waste the experience and training they represent.

Feed_The_Reaper

I think the best thing to do is tell them that you wont sign the risk assessment because you believe there are serious risks that havent been looked at, and then ask them what exactly it is they are going to do about it?

Then maybe its worth seeking proper legal advice about what to do, because they can happily drag their feet making you work on while they "get around to sorting it out" or you do something in protest that makes it a breach of your contract and they can stick you on SSP over it.

Good luck with the CAB

Feisty_Fairy

Hi all, well it seems there been fun on this thread while i have been away with the TROLL lol:rotfl:

I went to the CAB and also spoke to ACAS, HSE and the lady at the CAB spoke to warwickshire workers rights, all have said the risk assessment is shoddy and not good enough, i apparently could take them to a tribunal over just that (obviously i wont) i have been advised to write a letter of grievance stating that im not happy with the risk assessment and take it from there, but i think i will just do it verbally to begin with, any comments?

I have been told that they have to GUARANTEE my safety which i dont think they can, OR find me an altenative job OR suspend me with full pay, so i need to tell them that!:(

tizerbelle

Feisty_Fairy wrote: »

I have been told that they have to GUARANTEE my safety

Who actually told you that? Guarantee is a very very strong word and how can anyone guarantee that a truck won't veer off the road, crash into the building and kill everyone inside? I would be wary of using words like this.

Taken from HSE's own guide for expectant and pregnant mothers - "Your employer should take action to ensure that you are not exposed to any significant risk"

Completely different meaning there.

Here's the link to the guide itself

SarEl

Feisty_Fairy wrote: »

Hi all, well it seems there been fun on this thread while i have been away with the TROLL lol:rotfl:

I went to the CAB and also spoke to ACAS, HSE and the lady at the CAB spoke to warwickshire workers rights, all have said the risk assessment is shoddy and not good enough, i apparently could take them to a tribunal over just that (obviously i wont) i have been advised to write a letter of grievance stating that im not happy with the risk assessment and take it from there, but i think i will just do it verbally to begin with, any comments?

I have been told that they have to GUARANTEE my safety which i dont think they can, OR find me an altenative job OR suspend me with full pay, so i need to tell them that!:(

I agree with Tizerbelle here. Whoever from CAB / ACAS / HSE has said this is talking rubbish. No employer can guarantee safety and that is not what a risk assessment is for. Nor can any of them say that an employers risk assessment is shoddy without knowing the employment situation by making a workplace visit (and the only one that I would then trust would be the HSE - which is why I suggested them doing this many posts ago). I do think that you are correct in your approach of raising the matters informally first before raising a grievance though - resolution is often easier than confrontation.