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Bankrupcy contribution question help..... (SOA now included)

Good afternoon all, just joined so please be gentle!!

I think I am going down the bankrupcy route-I am just swamped and after advice from various organisations, its the best available plan for me.

One question I do have is how much does the officer take from your wages? Basically I take home £1800 a month, and my "must" outgoings are £1295 a month (includes the fiances car insurance and running costs, but not food, clothing, or haircuts), leaving circa £505 "spare" although it never seems spare....how much and for how long would he take?

Thanks all.

Dave

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  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,542 Forumite
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    Davey_Boy1 wrote: »
    my "must" outgoings are £1295 a month (includes the fiances car insurance and running costs, but not food, clothing, or haircuts), leaving circa £505 "spare" although it never seems spare....how much and for how long would he take?

    I can't imagine they are going to let you include you fiancees car insurance on your SOA. At least, not allow it when they calculate your surplus income anyway.

    Why not include food, haircuts etc? You obviously can include those.

    Please post up your SOA so we can work things out.

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  • Ok, here it is. I am at work at the moment so there maybe a odd item missing that I cant remember. Please note that there are no expenses for cars as I have a company car and fuel. The utility bills also include the arrears payments.

    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet
    Household Information
    Number of adults in household........... 1
    Number of children in household......... 0
    Number of cars owned.................... 0
    Monthly Income Details
    Monthly income after tax................ 1810
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 1810
    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 0
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 272
    Rent.................................... 575
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 145
    Electricity............................. 106
    Gas..................................... 86
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 56
    Telephone (land line)................... 21
    Mobile phone............................ 45
    TV Licence.............................. 11
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 19
    Internet Services....................... 7
    Groceries etc. ......................... 200
    Clothing................................ 50
    Petrol/diesel........................... 0
    Road tax................................ 0
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 7.2
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 67
    Buildings insurance..................... 0
    Contents insurance...................... 36
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 30
    Haircuts................................ 9
    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 1742.2

    Assets
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 0

    Secured & HP Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 0........(0)........0
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 8500.....(272)......29.9
    Total secured & HP debts...... 8500......-.........-
    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Credit cards...................1850......95........39.9
    Store accounts.................1200......120.......34.9
    CCJs...........................9000......77.6......0
    Total unsecured debts..........12050.....292.6.....-

    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 1,810
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,742.2
    Available for debt repayments........... 67.8
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 292.6
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -224.8
    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 0
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -8,500
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -12,050
    Net Assets.............................. -20,550
  • Oh, and somewhere out there is a £70000 debt to the mortgage company. I had a house repossesed 4 years ago, and it was auctioned for £70000 less than the mortgage owing-but I have never heard a thing since????? However, I am sure it will appear at some point.
  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,542 Forumite
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    I'm useless at dissecting SOAs :o, but I'm sure others will be along soon to help with that. :)

    If/when you do eventually get an idea of what surplus income you might have, then the OR will look to take between 50 to 70 % of that.

    Works on a sliding scale with these bands:

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  • dojoman
    dojoman Posts: 12,027 Forumite
    Davey_Boy1 wrote: »
    Ok, here it is. I am at work at the moment so there maybe a odd item missing that I cant remember. Please note that there are no expenses for cars as I have a company car and fuel. The utility bills also include the arrears payments.

    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet
    Household Information
    Number of adults in household........... 1
    Number of children in household......... 0
    Number of cars owned.................... 0
    Monthly Income Details
    Monthly income after tax................ 1810
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 1810
    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 0
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 272
    Rent.................................... 575
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 145
    Electricity............................. 106 SEEMS HIGH
    Gas..................................... 86 DITTO
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 56
    Telephone (land line)................... 21 £60 INC MOBILE
    Mobile phone............................ 45
    TV Licence.............................. 11
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 19 NOT ALLOWED WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT OF SURPLUS
    Internet Services....................... 7 NEEDS TO BE FOR WORK/STUDY
    Groceries etc. ......................... 200
    Clothing................................ 50
    Petrol/diesel........................... 0
    Road tax................................ 0
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 7.2
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 67 £30
    Buildings insurance..................... 0
    Contents insurance...................... 36
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 30 NOT ALLOWED
    Haircuts................................ 9 £10
    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 0 £30
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 1742.2

    Assets
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 0

    Secured & HP Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 0........(0)........0
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 8500.....(272)......29.9
    Total secured & HP debts...... 8500......-.........-
    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Credit cards...................1850......95........39.9
    Store accounts.................1200......120.......34.9
    CCJs...........................9000......77.6......0
    Total unsecured debts..........12050.....292.6.....-

    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 1,810
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,742.2
    Available for debt repayments........... 67.8
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 292.6
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -224.8
    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 0
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -8,500
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -12,050
    Net Assets.............................. -20,550


    Hope this helps?
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    and WISE too late!
  • It does help-thank you.

    Elec and gas very high due to arrears.

    And pet insurance is high as well-he is very old and has had some claims (£6k in total so the really load it).

    Sky Tv can come out-its rubbish anyway and all I watch is channels 1-5. I do use the internet for work-I sometimes work at weekends and at home in the week.
  • JCS1
    JCS1 Posts: 5,338 Forumite
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    What does the secured loan/HP repayment relate to? and the HP amount of £8,500? I
  • debtinfo
    debtinfo Posts: 7,012 Forumite
    BTW, are you living with your fiance
    Hi, im Debtinfo, i am an ex insolvency examiner and over the years have personally dealt with thousands of bankruptcy cases.
    Please note that any views i put forth are not those of my former employer The Insolvency Service and do not constitute professional advice, you should always seek professional advice before entering insolvency proceedings.
  • ascot64
    ascot64 Posts: 146 Forumite
    Also the arrears on your utility bills will go into the BR. You just need current costs included on the SOA.
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