forced to resign

KiKi

miss_unhappy wrote: »

yes its very hard to accept but i cant sit back and let somebody take mickey out of me as employee, humilated and me me feel like not valued staff. thats wrong!!!!

Hi there

I'm sure what I'm about to say will sound harsh - but I promise you I'm saying it kindly!

You *did* sit back - you didn't raise a grievance at the time. That's fine, and it's not a criticism of you. But the problem is that raising the issues *after* you've resigned won't help you from a legal standpoint. Any ET will wonder why you didn't go through the formal grievance processes.

It is wrong when people are bullied at work, of course it is. But because you've now chosen to leave without raising them when they happened, you will have a HUGE struggle proving any of these things. Only 3% of constructive dismissal cases are won by employees (thanks to SarEl for the statistic!), and those are employees with rock solid cases. Some of your issues with the company wouldn't stand up as grievances anyway (eg, someone with less experience being promoted).

If the posters on here don't think you have a cat in hell's chance of winning (and there are no cats in hell, I'm sure, so your chance is zero), then an ET is almost certainly likely to agree.

You didn't raise the issues at the time, and you're angry now about them because you no longer have a job. It really is better for your own health and sanity to let this go. If you are needed to help with your relative at the moment you need to focus your energies there.

I hope you do find a better job soon.
KiKi

dmg24

Could I ask who the relative is, and why you need to take the time off? Is it in order to care for the relative, and if so, is there no one else who could do this?

I agree with Emmzi, the employer does not appear to be at fault. If you had been able to fulfil your usual role, you would not have had to resign.

(Something spooky here - the last post before I responded was 1.31pm, and now there are lots!)

pinkshoes

I agree with Emmzi here, in that your employer hasn't done anything wrong, as this was not a situation where leave would have been granted, and they have even attempted to find you a more convenient post, which wasn't possible.

The other issues are completely separate, and personally I think you would be wasting your time and energy pursuing them, and should just forget it and move on.

I would just concentrate on helping your family, and find yourself another job when your family no longer needs your full support.

miss_unhappy

KiKi wrote: »

Hi there

I'm sure what I'm about to say will sound harsh - but I promise you I'm saying it kindly!

You *did* sit back - you didn't raise a grievance at the time. That's fine, and it's not a criticism of you. But the problem is that raising the issues *after* you've resigned won't help you from a legal standpoint. Any ET will wonder why you didn't go through the formal grievance processes.

It is wrong when people are bullied at work, of course it is. But because you've now chosen to leave without raising them when they happened, you will have a HUGE struggle proving any of these things. Only 3% of constructive dismissal cases are won by employees (thanks to SarEl for the statistic!), and those are employees with rock solid cases. Some of your issues with the company wouldn't stand up as grievances anyway (eg, someone with less experience being promoted).

If the posters on here don't think you have a cat in hell's chance of winning (and there are no cats in hell, I'm sure, so your chance is zero), then an ET is almost certainly likely to agree.

You didn't raise the issues at the time, and you're angry now about them because you no longer have a job. It really is better for your own health and sanity to let this go. If you are needed to help with your relative at the moment you need to focus your energies there.

I hope you do find a better job soon.
KiKi

thankyou.i really appreciate your comments.what youve said isnt harsh.im not angry about not having a job as i can find work anywhere. not mentioned yet but i still have my casual bar job which i used to work thurs sat evenings at a entertainment venue same length two years to make ends meet. i used to work thurs day 4 hours, then bar job evening 9pm/10pm til closing 4am ore 5am....i used to work sat day shift 4 hours then bar job evening 9pm/10pm til closing 5am -6am. on weekends if i wanted i can still do when im ready. but thats nothing to do with it. as a professional anyway i always keep personal and professionalism separate.

i truely do think the posters are good advice. yes i may not even need to go to a ET if my head office resolves the issue itself.i cxant even call my manager asking for anything because i feel she maybe lying to the hr department. thats why not spoken to her as every time ive tryed she dismisses it all. i am in a good opportunity and if they offer me an appology for the treatment id be more than happy.but if theyre not willing to recognise mistreatment what is that saying a multi millionaire company can keep on letting it go on in the work place. yes ive got out, great news! i am focusing on my energies with my folk. but i only wanted to come on here to get some views and opinions...im not argueing im just frustrated. also its good to talk and get stuff out of your system. nothing your with that.thanks

Caroline_a

Sorry, I agree with the others but, before you go down the Industrial Tribunal route, beware that you will probably need a solicitor - I had to take a previous employer to court for non -payment of notice money. It was settled out of court the day before the hearing, but I still needed a solicitor to help with a few bits and pieces - that cost me £600! for a few emails and phonecalls.

Additionally, if you do take them to court, it isnt wise to mention this when looking for another job - employers arent keen on employing people who have taken a previous employer to court.

Finally, 10 days compassionate leave is amazing - when my dad died earlier this year I had our company standard - 3 days, and the remaining 2 days I needed for organising and the funeral had to come out of my holiday entitlement.

SandC

Miss Unhappy what has happened with the bar job then? Are your employers there letting you have the time off and then go back when you are ready?

cavework

Wow .. I admit that after reading your post I may be a bit confused but from an Employers point of view it seems that you don't like your manager or anyone in a supervisory position
You don't like your work colleagues, you don't like the working terms and conditions and you don't like being told NO.
As someone else has said 'Let it go'