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elderley to give up council homes
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Rainmaker_uk wrote: »Well I can see some selfish money grabbing oiks
Why?
I've never lived in social housing.
I strongly doubt I ever shall.
So no possible gain to me, if people move out of too-large places....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
carlislelass wrote: »where are all the 1 bedroom flats or bungalows for single people who move out?
In some places, such as the London Borough of Camden, they are brimming with 1 bed places, have too many in comparison with larger ones....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
My mums council built an estate especially for older people it consists of a large block of flats, maisonettes, a few bungalows and small houses. They have no problem getting older single people and couples to move there.0
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My mums council built an estate especially for older people it consists of a large block of flats, maisonettes, a few bungalows and small houses. They have no problem getting older single people and couples to move there.
But this is the issue ukcarper.
The housing budget has been cut by 50%.
The newly built properties are more suitable for people, granted.
But a lot of existing stock isn't suitable or desireable.
How are we to provide all this suitable housing?It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »Why?
I've never lived in social housing.
I strongly doubt I ever shall.
So no possible gain to me, if people move out of too-large places.
The theory is, if social housing is more efficiently used it will be the equivalent of increasing the housing stock and reduce the pressure on house prices, so it would affect you
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
lemonjelly wrote: »But this is the issue ukcarper.
The housing budget has been cut by 50%.
The newly built properties are more suitable for people, granted.
But a lot of existing stock isn't suitable or desireable.
How are we to provide all this suitable housing?
Yes that estate was built about 20 years ago and has been a success but there is no chance any similar estates will be built. By the way this is a Tory council in southern England and it is still almost impossible to get social housing.0 -
lemonjelly wrote: »They don't want 1 bed properties though. Or at least, not the ones that are out there. Trust me, I know, having tried offering existing properties.
Remember these people have a lifetimes worth of stuff. They need space for it to go into.
The other thing, is that some of them have lived in the same home for decades. It is where their kids were born/grew up/went to school/opened christmas presents etc etc.
yes but lj me and oh (late 30s) don't particularly want to live in a 1 bed (one that we had to buy at inflated london market cost as well), and my friends with 8 month old twins don't really want to live in a tiny 1 bed flat either. it limits visits from relatives. but we do it because we can't really afford the alternatives.
as for saying they need somewhere to keep a lifetimes worth of stuff...well sorry if that doesn't make me that sympathetic.
many old people in private houses have to downsize because that's the only way they can afford to provide themselves with any sort of pension.
lucky them if they've lived in the same house all their life. many of us have had many years of insecure private rentals and the only way out of that has been to take on significant mortgages. i don't think it is realisitic or the best use of resources to let people stay in the same social housing house all their lives when their circumstances change.Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron0 -
I believe that if council/HA rents were to nearer match market rates, then many would choose to move to smaller units for the personal cost savings. Seems odd that social housing tenants are somehow detached from the "real" world.0
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The_White_Horse wrote: »why can't people in HA share properties. you can stick 4 or 5 in a big house, plus they can look after each other and have company.
students share houses. no reason why elderly widowed people or young singles can't share.
my first thanked white horse post. i think it would be a good idea to offer elderly the choice of large shared housing (perhaps with a spare room or two for guests / family visits) - company in old age has been linked with greater quality of life on longevity. but i think they should be offered the alternative of small 1 bed places for those who prefer privacy.
family houses for single and even elderly couples can't really be justified on public funds imho. didn't marx say "from each according to ability, to each according to need"?Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron0 -
i notice none of you mention that the elderly who have lived in a coincil house for most of their lives have paid for the house twice over in rent not all tenants are on benefits0
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