Remo advice please

meggie97

Hello all

I am after some advice on how to start the remo process short story

2000 - me and exdh split

2000 - 2007 csa try to get ex dh to pay for our daughter but he keep going trace in them, basically everytime they found him in employment via his ni no, they woukld get a deo set up and he would then leave employment during this time he accrued a debt of £17,000 as he was in the army when we started the csa process and he refused to fill in the paperwork so they assessed him on his army pay.

2008 -2010 Late 2008 he got a job and we were paid a regular sum of maintence until he left the country in fed 2010 to marry an american and live with her in Orlando.

I have recieved no money for my child since Feb this year and think its highly unfair that if a parent no longer wants to pay for there child all they have to do is leave the country. The csa has closed my case as orlando is out of their jurisdictation, however the accrued debt stands and should he return to the uk to live i can get it re- instated

Any help on how to start the remo process would be appreciated.

solongmarianne

I contacted my local court, who gave me an address to write to with all details, once they got it, they phoned me to tell me the process, so give your local court a call hth x

PlayingHardball

Hi Meggie,
There are plenty of us in your position, so take heart. I agree, it is morally wrong that these 'parents' can do this! Is there anychance that he is in the armed forces now? If so, it makes things easier and I understand CSA will have jurisdiction.

If not, don't worry, just do as previous poster said and contact your local magistrates court and ask them to send you the REMO appliction forms. You'll need to know the ex-s whereabouts in Florida.

CSA currently don't have jurisdiction over foreign income which is something I have complained to at the highest level in CSA. I had a reply to say that this is currently being reviewed.

I personally am fighting my ex in 2 ways. First is REMO but it is taking a long time, the second is through a variation order with the CSA, but again, I'm awaiting a tribunal hearing so that the CSA can remove their incorrect closure of my case. Its a long story, but my ex retains ties in the UK which makes him 'habitually resident' which means the CSA DO have jurisdiction. It took me a long time to find this out, so if your ex still has family in the UK he returns to frequently, or still owns a flat or property, you may be able to go down that route too.

Good luck, don't let him get away with it! Make his life hell. (knowing I will eventually do that makes all the financial anxiety that my ex has put me through for the last couple of years well worth it)

These guys think they'll get off scott free! Hah, show them they won't.

Luckily, the USA and Canada are very cooperative with REMOs. So you stand a very good chance of a quicker success then me (mine was with Germany)

AnxiousMum

The outstanding arrears still stand at the moment under the CSA - but he would need to be within their jurisdiction to recover this.

However...when you file with REMO, the paperwork will ask if there is a previous case - you quote the CSA case. It will ask if any arrears are due - make sure that you copy an account breakdown from CSA in this - as then the US court can make the arrears enforceable over there as well Go get him hon.....non resident parents like this need to know that they cannot get away with abandoning their children!

meggie97

Thank you for all the replies the only letter i have from the csa is the one telling me they are closing my case and the amount of debt still standing, will that do? Fortunatly he has been all over a certain social networking site declaring where he is working.

Do i just walk into the magistrates court and ask to speak to someone who deals with family and maintenence issues?

jools27_2

AnxiousMum wrote: »

The outstanding arrears still stand at the moment under the CSA - but he would need to be within their jurisdiction to recover this.

However...when you file with REMO, the paperwork will ask if there is a previous case - you quote the CSA case. It will ask if any arrears are due - make sure that you copy an account breakdown from CSA in this - as then the US court can make the arrears enforceable over there as well Go get him hon.....non resident parents like this need to know that they cannot get away with abandoning their children!

Not every parent moving abroad has abandoned their children, you know! My brother is remarried and living in USA after his wife had an affair and left with their daughter!!!

PlayingHardball

jools27 wrote: »

Not every parent moving abroad has abandoned their children, you know! My brother is remarried and living in USA after his wife had an affair and left with their daughter!!!

Oh, for Pete sake, nobody said all parents moving abroad had turned their back on their kids, many do though! 6,000 of them according to UK statistics, and only 1/4 of these choose to support their kids.(some as they don't get away with it, i.e. service NRP) Shocking, really. A sad statement of human nature. I can't imagine in my very wildest dreams ever doing what my ex has done in choosing to not support his child.

Good on your brother, so he financially supports the children left behind? Whether his choosing or hers? At the end of the day, relationships break down all the time.

BAT1

My daughter is 4 and her dad moved to Canada two years ago. He started off pay £270 a month, an amount he offered and Skyping regularly. However, he has now married a Canadian and the money and contact stopped in January this year. On advice from his wife he has now decided to put the money in a savings account for my daughter to receive when she is 18. I have argued this is not "child support" if she receives it at 18. I have obtained my REMO forms and am filling them out, however he has changed his number and moved so it maybe a long process but Im prepared to wait however long it takes.

My only concern is this - at the moment he has no access to my daughter (his choice - he didnt even send her a birthday card), she doesnt know him having not seen him in over 2 years. When he applied for citizenship this year he tried to force me into signing a "custodial agreement" to help his application. This stated my daughter be escorted to Canada every summer holidays even if she didnt want to go and he had her every xmas day ! I objected and refused to sign the form. Im not putting my 4 year old on a plane ot stay with a man she doesn't know. If this REMO goes through has it got anything to do with custody ? If I force him to pay will the courts in return grant him access ? I dont want to force my daughter into this ? Are the two things totally seperate ?

I know he is earning over 60,000 dollars, has brought a new house and car etc. Do I have a good case ? Im struggling to pay for clothes for my child and think hes appaulling for donig this - ANY ADVICE WELCOME !!!!

kevin137

BAT1 wrote: »

Im not putting my 4 year old on a plane ot stay with a man she doesn't know. If this REMO goes through has it got anything to do with custody ? If I force him to pay will the courts in return grant him access ? I dont want to force my daughter into this ? Are the two things totally seperate ?

It is my understanding, although it may be wrong, that if you live in the UK, then he must apply for access through the UK courts. Meaning, that if he wanted to see the child he would have to come here, there may well be an inclusion in any order should he apply for one, that will also restrict his access to the UK, meaning he could not leave the country with the child, and if he did, he could be arrested for abduction.

Don't worry so much about it, until the UK court contact you regarding access he will get nothing.

I'm not saying he shouldn't have contact, but if he wants it, then you have to think of what is best for the child, which is what any contact order will do, and there is no way they would order overnight, let alone extended contact for a child of that age that has had no contact for 2 years.

mama7

Can anyone tell me the exact name of the papers to ask for to start the remo process? I went down to my local court and asked for consent order forms and they didn't have a clue what I was talking about and told me to see a solicitor something I cannot afford to do! My ex disappeared to New Zealand in March last year and I haven't received a penny towards our 7 children since then. The Csa have spent the last year going round in circles as apparently the evidence he has provided to say he isn't in the country is not enough but yet they can't find him in this country either! They have now said the case won't be closed but is in a surveillance queue!!