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More Coalition U-Turns

BACKFRMTHEEDGE
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LinkyLiberal Democrats back plans to scrap university tuition fees
Sat, 07 Mar 200
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11507537At the general election, Lib Dem MPs, including party leader Nick Clegg, signed personal pledges that they would vote against any increase in tuition fees.
Now they face the prospect of a major U-turn if the coalition government accepts recommendations for a sharp increase in fees.
Will the grass root Lib Dems stand for this?
An election in 18 months?
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step
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BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »Linky
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11507537
Will the grass root Lib Dems stand for this?
An election in 18 months?
Never has a manifesto being changed when the party is in government, lead to a general election.
Did labour do everything they stated in their manifesto?0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »Did labour do everything they stated in their manifesto?
Somewhat ironically, given that the subject is tuition fees, before the 1997 General Election a certain Tony Blair announced that "Labour has no plans to introduce tuition fees for higher education" followed by the introduction of said tuition fees once he was safely in power.0 -
Somewhat ironically, given that the subject is tuition fees, before the 1997 General Election a certain Tony Blair announced that "Labour has no plans to introduce tuition fees for higher education" followed by the introduction of said tuition fees once he was safely in power.
It's best not to plan.0 -
BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »Linky
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11507537
Will the grass root Lib Dems stand for this?
An election in 18 months?
The constant search for U turns is ridiculous. The last government behaved like a bunch of rats in a grain silo. They flooded the country with immigrants, created 9 million 'economically inactive' people, created millions of make busy jobs with public money, undermined industry, engineered a housing bubble and left public finances in a smoking ruin.
The new government is faced with terrible choices. I hope they will be prepared to U turns where necessary. If they did not have the guts to make U turns, you would doubtless criticise them for being blinkered and dogmatic. We are in a terrible mess and new fires have to be put out daily. I commend the Lib Dems and the Cons (and I am not a strong supporter of either) for their willingness to take U turns in such difficult times. It reflects pragmatism and common sense.
I have no respect for comments like yours. Sniping from the side lines when your party (I assume) is responsible for the mess we are in is contemptible.0 -
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BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »
Actually, come to think of it, grass root Labour supporters put up with thirteen years of ..... well, you know, so i think the grass root Lib Dems have had it easy so far.0 -
I have never understood why the dont just offer a discount to the top students, i.e the the top 10% pay nothing, the top 20% pay only half.
Not only would it encourage compition in the classroom, the smart benefit regardless of class and you would be able to vary it based on the demand for the degree so doctors that earn a packet once the graduate don't get it etc.
anyone got an idea why it hasnt been proposed?0 -
I have never understood why the dont just offer a discount to the top students, i.e the the top 10% pay nothing, the top 20% pay only half.
Not only would it encourage compition in the classroom, the smart benefit regardless of class and you would be able to vary it based on the demand for the degree so doctors that earn a packet once the graduate don't get it etc.
anyone got an idea why it hasnt been proposed?
Because it would be very difficult to administer? And because the top 10% of students are the ones that go on to become investment bankers and accountants, and so are the ones that should be paying for their degrees.
The Lib-Dems are probably more reliant on student votes than other parties, mainly because of their stance on tuition fees, and the grass-roots are supposedly very attached to the abolition of fees. I think proposals to increase them would lead to a back-bench revolt from a lot of Lib-Dem MPs, and since the last increase in tuition fees only scraped through you would have to wonder if they could get it through.0 -
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