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mice problem, tenant or LL problem?

I would usually say LL, but what about circumstances of extremely messy tenants that leave the bin uncovered, dont sweep the floor in weeks, dont wipe down spills, maintain stinky rooms, leave food and crumbs on work surfaces and then complain when they have mice.
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  • The information I have found on this is that the answer depends on the terms of the agreement between LL and tenant. If there is nothing in the agreement you will have to reach an accommodation with them. I agreed with the tenants that I would get a professional in to block up gaps get rid of the mice etc but that they would be responsible for future infestations (if any). They agreed to that.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 50,683 Ambassador
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    Depends which came first the tenant or the mice.
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  • dboswell
    dboswell Posts: 309 Forumite
    silvercar wrote: »
    Depends which came first the tenant or the mice.

    good question!

    tenants came first in february 2008. they reported seeing a mouse in may 2008. I deal with it and then nothing until yesterday.

    i also gave them electro pest repellers.

    should i lay traps and poison and provide new repellers and see?
  • Do those electro-repellers actually work? I would have thought that the first tactic necessary would to be to prevent the blighters getting in. It's my understanding that any gap which you can push a pencil into is big enough for a mouse to pass through, and that's pretty small.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    I have never understood why both LLs and Ts have to argue over this one - it should be a joint effort . LL sorts out any deficiencies in the property and T stores food properly, cleans up any food detritus and stores rubbish appropriately whilst awaiting collection .

    Neither LL nor T should want mice piddle all over the property and the potential for property damage/tenant illness

    Plug in rodent repellers and call in local pest control officer if necessary. The costs of pest control are tax deductible for the LL.
  • robin_banks
    robin_banks Posts: 15,778 Forumite
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    Agreed it can only be a joint effort.
    "An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".

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  • dboswell
    dboswell Posts: 309 Forumite
    just got them the repellers and traps and will plug gaps. they will make more of an effort to tidy.

    also suggested a cat.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    dboswell wrote: »
    just got them the repellers and traps and will plug gaps. they will make more of an effort to tidy.

    also suggested a cat.
    .. so you exchange mice piddle for cat piddle, plus fleas, furballs and clawed carpets/door frames/furniture.........think I'd rather have the mice :D
  • Only let them have a cat if they can train it to do the necessary tidying up as well.
  • mlz1413
    mlz1413 Posts: 3,155 Forumite
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    If they are messy tenants then adding a cat is asking for damage and fleas.

    Do the tenants have a compost heap outside? Or leave out bin bags with food waste? This is normally the first step, it invites the mice to the garden and then they don't take long to find the inside of the house.

    Get tenants to tidy up and make sure all gaps filled last time are still filled, that no new gaps have appeared.

    I'd put something in writing to advise of agreement reached if it was done verbally.
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