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Welfare reform - Tax credits next?

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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    AD9898 wrote: »
    I understand this and of course you do have a point, but something has to be done, 3 decades ago 40% of people on council estates had no one working in the household, this figure now is 70%. IMO the numbers have been increasing on the back of the benefits system that is incentivises people to have children, the more, the more rewarding is the system.

    There is no easy way but it has to be stopped.

    A sensible considered response AD not like some I could mention icon7.gif I am surprised by your figures above, including the 40%.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    mbga9pgf wrote: »
    Parents barely "feed" them anyway. Too busy spending money on their filthy drinking, smoking and drugs habits, not to mention their penchant for designer clobber.
    ahh yes forunomics at it's best; the best thing about this forum is people can post any nonsense like this.
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    Why are chavs too fat? Last time I was in Somalia, famine was typified by being skinny, not fat...

    You dont have to like it. You have to deal with it. We are 6 months in and we have another 4 1/2 years of this fun before your beloved party will get a chance to embarrass themselves with complete defeat at the next election.

    How does that feel?
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    AD9898 wrote: »
    I understand this and of course you do have a point, but something has to be done, 3 decades ago 40% of people on council estates had no one working in the household, this figure now is 70%. IMO the numbers have been increasing on the back of the benefits system that is incentivises people to have children, the more, the more rewarding is the system.

    There is no easy way but it has to be stopped.
    Its called sterilisation of 2nd generation benefits claimants.
  • SingleSue
    SingleSue Posts: 11,718 Forumite
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    mbga9pgf wrote: »
    Parents barely "feed" them anyway. Too busy spending money on their filthy drinking, smoking and drugs habits, not to mention their penchant for designer clobber.

    You forgot the word 'some'.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    SingleSue wrote: »
    You forgot the word 'some'.

    True. I will give about 5% of 3rd generation benefits claimants the benefit of the doubt.
  • LilacPixie
    LilacPixie Posts: 8,052 Forumite
    mbga9pgf wrote: »
    Its called sterilisation of 2nd generation benefits claimants.

    aa but think of the cost to the NHS when it won't sterilise some people who want sterilised :eek:

    Fact is essentials are roof over head, food, warmth, clothing. That can be provided on minimal benefits. There is a website some posters from the old style board created on feeding a family of 4 on £100 per month allowing for the recomended daily intake of vitamins and minerals, 5 a day etc. So it is possible to have a very low food budget and still survive/no die. Just no room for fizzy drinks, junk food etc.
    MF aim 10th December 2020 :j:eek:
    MFW 2012 no86 OP 0/2000 :D
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Oh, did I make a boo boo, again? Didn't realise they had already been cut.

    They certainly seem to cost an absolute fortune. Basically a quarter or the cost of running the entire NHS. Says something about the country, surely, when so many people need, or at least, are stated to need top ups to live.
  • AD9898_2
    AD9898_2 Posts: 527 Forumite
    mbga9pgf wrote: »
    Its called sterilisation of 2nd generation benefits claimants.

    Not so long ago I may have been of this persuasion, however what people must consider is if the state had this kind of power, what other powers would they have to curtail our freedom ?

    In a free (ish) society, we have to put up with many things we don't agree with, this is life. What we have to do is educate and legislate. Any really extreme action will most likely backfire on society as a whole.
    Have owned outright since Sept 2009, however I'm of the firm belief that high prices are a cancer on society, they have sucked money out of the economy, handing it to banks who've squandered it.
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    And make us far worse morally than those we criticise.
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