Child benefit to be scrapped for higher rate tax payers from 2013

LilacPixie

carolt wrote: »

I think that depends where you live and what you're housing costs are.

Hard to generalise.

Do you think that child benefit should be area specific then? rents/houseprices are lower in say Wales than London so should should those who live in Wales lose CB on an income of 45k but people who chose to live in a more expensive area or in a bigger home still get child benefit to subsidise their lifestyle?

I personally think they should of limited CB to first child only

Jonbvn

chucky wrote: »

please don't try and make this into a party political broadcast to try and distract the fact that this hasn't been handled very well by the Coalition government.

chucky,

I think you started the spin first, so it is disingenuous for you to accuse anybody else of the same.

carolt

ukcarper wrote: »

Someone in your household must be earning over £44k or what are you moaning about because you will keep your child benefit.

Yes, my OH earns over 44K, clearly.

Our family income is not huge, however.

How difficult is that to understand?

RenovationMan

Graham_Devon wrote: »

To be fair, she never stated that was her income. She was looking at the 44k threshold.

I'm not tkaing sides, just not really liking this ganging up on a poster, especially over something that wasn't actually said.

I'm not 'ganging' up on anyone, though I did receive a couple of PMs warning me about that particular poster and I wont be engaging in debate any further.

However, she said: "It means I shall have to find more work and my children will see me even less, and when they do, I shall be even more tired. 44K to bring up a family is a tiny, tiny amount, certainly in the South East. "

She was speaking personally about how she will have to find more work abnd that her children will see her less because £44k is not enough to bring up a family in the South East. I take it she lives in the South East. Everything in that sentence is personal, so is it so difficult to believe that the £44k wasn't personal too?

Its a bit rich for a poster to personalise the debate with accusations of lying on the part of other posters and then to complain when it impacts themselves.

ukcarper

carolt wrote: »

ukcarper wrote: »

The person on 23K much more likely to work less hours.

Median full time salary about £20k

Really2

carolt wrote: »

Yes, my OH earns over 44K, clearly.

Our family income is not huge, however.

How difficult is that to understand?

If you earn over £50K between you compared to the rest of the country it is huge TBH.
We earn just a shade over that and I think that puts us in the top 15%

Average household income is £32K I believe.

carolt

LilacPixie wrote: »

Do you think that child benefit should be area specific then? rents/houseprices are lower in say Wales than London so should should those who live in Wales lose CB on an income of 45k but people who chose to live in a more expensive area or in a bigger home still get child benefit to subsidise there lifestyle?

I personally think they should of limited CB to first child only

No, I would prefer child benefit to remain a universal benefit, as stated above.

If it has to be cut for economic reasons, I'd favour a much higher cut-off - family incomes over 100K, say.

I don't think it would be practical to means test it by area, and anyway what matters isn't so much where you live as if you own or rent, and if you rent, whether privately or not, and if you own, when you bought.

eg a family living in a 3 bed house could be paying anything from £0 to £2000/month + depending on those factors, which was my point.

chucky

Jonbvn wrote: »

chucky,

I think you started the spin first, so it is disingenuous for you to accuse anybody else of the same.

spin by agreeing it was a blunder by the coalition. how is that spin?

i know you've just renewed your David Cameron Fan Club membership but they do make mistakes you know... Cameron and Osborne can't be your heroes all of time...

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

carolt wrote: »

I don't mind taking a cut in child benefit - !

Yeah..... Sure you don't.

Let me just remind you one more time how much you "don't mind" losing money.....

carolt wrote: »

Am really angry -

- we're going to lose over £2250/year after tax - that is a LOT of money.

I am REALLY, REALLY ANGRY. :mad:

Pah. FURIOUS. :mad:

It's a bit different when the shoe is on the other foot, isn't it....:cool:

carolt

RenovationMan wrote: »

I'm not 'ganging' up on anyone, though I did receive a couple of PMs warning me about that particular poster and I wont be engaging in debate any further.

However, she said: "It means I shall have to find more work and my children will see me even less, and when they do, I shall be even more tired. 44K to bring up a family is a tiny, tiny amount, certainly in the South East. "

She was speaking personally about how she will have to find more work abnd that her children will see her less because £44k is not enough to bring up a family in the South East. I take it she lives in the South East. Everything in that sentence is personal, so is it so difficult to believe that the £44k wasn't personal too?

Its a bit rich for a poster to personalise the debate with accusations of lying on the part of other posters and then to complain when it impacts themselves.

I have never lied.

You were too stupid to understand my post.

I'd leave it there if I were you, before you make yourself look even more of a fool.